wheelchairman
10-27-2007, 12:38 PM
The Main Parties that use Focus Groups
It's been a growing tendency in most major parties in a democracy to rely on focus groups. In Denmark it's a trend that has gone almost to absurdity, with at least the two major parties (Social Democrats and the Liberal Party) relying heavily on them. In fact about a week or two ago a former party head in the social democrats bemoaned the fact that his influence caused an over-reliance in the party in the use of Focus Groups.
You might be wondering what effect this could have in the way a party promotes itself? Well it becomes quite clear when a party that is staunched in social-democratic tradition (for you uninformed, that's general support of a welfare state and all the left-leaning traditions that go with that) and the other party being the traditional liberals (liberal in the economic adam smithian sense of the term, free market trading, open borders, less state control etc) start saying EXACTLY the same things.
Both parties talk about how they support less taxes AND more welfare (it's an election so they don't actually need a plan, they just need promises). Then they take this further to both parties agreeing that we need better schools and health care. The only difference is the way they handle foreigners. Both parties ignore the issue and let their supporter parties talk about it. In this case the Social Democrats agree with the Radical Left (Denmark's most center party) and the Liberals agree with the New Alliance (A group that left the Radical Left but only because they didn't like the way the Radical Left didn't work with the Liberals...). Fortunately for the liberals they also have support in case the Danish population's village idiots decide to hate foreigners anyways, since the Liberals have support of the Danish People's Party (guess what their attitude and pet cause is).
Parties that SHOULD use Focus Groups
The best is the fringe groups. The Christian Democrats who's pet cause is abortion, they blame abortion for the fact that we don't have enough people working in Denmark in order to maintain our welfare state. They also believe that children are happier when they aren't stressed (that's literally their only advertisement), whatever that means.
Then therer's the Central Democrats (We have a lot of democrats for a monarchy), they are only famous because a pornstar from the interracial fetish industry joined them after she was thrown out of the Danish People's Party for saying she hated black people or something.
Other Fun Parties
The Conservative Party is interesting. Before the rise of the liberals they were the strong arm of the political right. (Most Danes don't realize this, but they are about as centrist as the Social Democrats are.) Most people don't really know what the Conservative party stands for, because the Conservative party has no special issue. They tried to be all about tax cuts, but then they passed an almost insignificant tax cut in parliament and embarrassed everybody by calling it a huge victory. In search for a new issue the Minister of Family and Consumption recommended that people should only drink 1 cola a week. Of course, it was largely ignored. It would be nice if they were more popular than the liberals, but it's kinda hard to see a huge difference between the two.
The Danish People's Party. Ah populism at it's best. They hate foreigners and love old people. The fun thing about this party is that they are the 3rd largest. And it's almost forbidden for most members to speak in public because most members are your local village idiot and it's really embarrassing for the party when they open their mouths. Which is why I can only name 3 members. (although to be fair, I couldn't name 3 members of the Conservative or the Social Democratic Party. I might be able to on the liberals, I'm not sure. Let's see, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Jens P. Rohde. Yeah I could.)
The Red-Green Party. I used to vote for them. I wouldn't call myself a communist or a socialist anymore but they did a good job of pulling a leftist government even more to the left (and I'm still pretty left.) But then as a publicity stunt they put a homophobic, pro-death penalty, head-scarf wearing muslim women as one of their top candidates, and I'm sorry, but I really can't support homophobia or the death penalty so my vote goes to...
The Socialist People's Party. They're exactly like the Red Green Party but only twice as big, oh and they like the EU. And uh... Yeah no crazy muslims on their side, only reasonable ones.
The Radical Left, Denmark's most central party. They consider themselves the true liberal party. They love immigrants, the EU, and free trade. I suppose everything that the Danish People's Party hates.
New Alliance, they are like the Radical Left, only they call themselves Social Conservative. No one's really sure what that means. They want everyone to pay no more than 40% taxes (which means everyone who isn't poor will pay less, as of now I pay 37.8% because I'm poor.) So really, I guess they like rich people. I don't really know though. No one's really sure what they stand for, not even the party itself.
This sort of turned into a rant.
So back to my main conclusion. Spin Doctors (which I haven't been mentioned but are notorious for spinning the truth, often in an untrue manner) and Focus Group politics which have deviated from the ideological backgrounds of the foundation of these parties are the cause for democratic decay in Denmark. I'm well aware that parties need to renew their policies but it should reflect some altruistic political belief and not some callous attempt at reaching more votes. For if it's the latter then we don't truly need democracy but simply a class of full-time bureaucrats (oh wait....)
It's been a growing tendency in most major parties in a democracy to rely on focus groups. In Denmark it's a trend that has gone almost to absurdity, with at least the two major parties (Social Democrats and the Liberal Party) relying heavily on them. In fact about a week or two ago a former party head in the social democrats bemoaned the fact that his influence caused an over-reliance in the party in the use of Focus Groups.
You might be wondering what effect this could have in the way a party promotes itself? Well it becomes quite clear when a party that is staunched in social-democratic tradition (for you uninformed, that's general support of a welfare state and all the left-leaning traditions that go with that) and the other party being the traditional liberals (liberal in the economic adam smithian sense of the term, free market trading, open borders, less state control etc) start saying EXACTLY the same things.
Both parties talk about how they support less taxes AND more welfare (it's an election so they don't actually need a plan, they just need promises). Then they take this further to both parties agreeing that we need better schools and health care. The only difference is the way they handle foreigners. Both parties ignore the issue and let their supporter parties talk about it. In this case the Social Democrats agree with the Radical Left (Denmark's most center party) and the Liberals agree with the New Alliance (A group that left the Radical Left but only because they didn't like the way the Radical Left didn't work with the Liberals...). Fortunately for the liberals they also have support in case the Danish population's village idiots decide to hate foreigners anyways, since the Liberals have support of the Danish People's Party (guess what their attitude and pet cause is).
Parties that SHOULD use Focus Groups
The best is the fringe groups. The Christian Democrats who's pet cause is abortion, they blame abortion for the fact that we don't have enough people working in Denmark in order to maintain our welfare state. They also believe that children are happier when they aren't stressed (that's literally their only advertisement), whatever that means.
Then therer's the Central Democrats (We have a lot of democrats for a monarchy), they are only famous because a pornstar from the interracial fetish industry joined them after she was thrown out of the Danish People's Party for saying she hated black people or something.
Other Fun Parties
The Conservative Party is interesting. Before the rise of the liberals they were the strong arm of the political right. (Most Danes don't realize this, but they are about as centrist as the Social Democrats are.) Most people don't really know what the Conservative party stands for, because the Conservative party has no special issue. They tried to be all about tax cuts, but then they passed an almost insignificant tax cut in parliament and embarrassed everybody by calling it a huge victory. In search for a new issue the Minister of Family and Consumption recommended that people should only drink 1 cola a week. Of course, it was largely ignored. It would be nice if they were more popular than the liberals, but it's kinda hard to see a huge difference between the two.
The Danish People's Party. Ah populism at it's best. They hate foreigners and love old people. The fun thing about this party is that they are the 3rd largest. And it's almost forbidden for most members to speak in public because most members are your local village idiot and it's really embarrassing for the party when they open their mouths. Which is why I can only name 3 members. (although to be fair, I couldn't name 3 members of the Conservative or the Social Democratic Party. I might be able to on the liberals, I'm not sure. Let's see, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Jens P. Rohde. Yeah I could.)
The Red-Green Party. I used to vote for them. I wouldn't call myself a communist or a socialist anymore but they did a good job of pulling a leftist government even more to the left (and I'm still pretty left.) But then as a publicity stunt they put a homophobic, pro-death penalty, head-scarf wearing muslim women as one of their top candidates, and I'm sorry, but I really can't support homophobia or the death penalty so my vote goes to...
The Socialist People's Party. They're exactly like the Red Green Party but only twice as big, oh and they like the EU. And uh... Yeah no crazy muslims on their side, only reasonable ones.
The Radical Left, Denmark's most central party. They consider themselves the true liberal party. They love immigrants, the EU, and free trade. I suppose everything that the Danish People's Party hates.
New Alliance, they are like the Radical Left, only they call themselves Social Conservative. No one's really sure what that means. They want everyone to pay no more than 40% taxes (which means everyone who isn't poor will pay less, as of now I pay 37.8% because I'm poor.) So really, I guess they like rich people. I don't really know though. No one's really sure what they stand for, not even the party itself.
This sort of turned into a rant.
So back to my main conclusion. Spin Doctors (which I haven't been mentioned but are notorious for spinning the truth, often in an untrue manner) and Focus Group politics which have deviated from the ideological backgrounds of the foundation of these parties are the cause for democratic decay in Denmark. I'm well aware that parties need to renew their policies but it should reflect some altruistic political belief and not some callous attempt at reaching more votes. For if it's the latter then we don't truly need democracy but simply a class of full-time bureaucrats (oh wait....)