The revolution is never going to happen

[SicN Twisted]

Weather you're an anarchist, a socialist, a marxist-leninist, a marxist, a anarcho-marxist, an anarcho-socialistic, or simply a progressive, you're all together under the same ideology and the same outcome, although you may believe in different methods of achieving it. All of us radical leftists, whether we believe that an authoritarian Stalinist leader will save us by murdering every dissident, or that individual freedom and lack of government is the only way to achieve it, we're all striving for a classless society. We're all fighting for peace, equality, and an end to oppression. Most forms of leftism, including my own, believe that such a society can be achieved through revolution.

I've come to the sad revalation that such a revolution will never happen. There may me a coup in which power is usurped by people who believe in our ideal, and governments may change, but in the scheme of things, there will be no real change - the utopia we dream of will never come into existence, because human duality doesn't allow that. The individual is our greatest ally and our worst enemy. Even if we can eradicate capitalism, the bourgeois, and even the State itself, there will be conflict that no reeducation or revolutionary fervor can destroy. We can change governments, but we can't destroy greed. We can't destroy selfishness, - it's inherent within us, and any revolutionary knows that while progressive change is imminent, the revolution will never happen.

[wheelchairman]

Greed and selfishness are by-products of the current system. They won't be destroyed by the next great social upheaval, but they will most certainly be changed to a different form. I think that's all we could want and that's all we could need.

What I fear is that socialism and communism can never be achieved without a world revolution. And a world revolution is unlikely in any event that it's even pointless to talk about. Stupid Trots.

[RXP]

You only figured that out?

[Satanic_Surfer]

Those were good chosen words.
Greed is a part of the human mind and cannot be existed, but it can be used to achieve positive things too, that is not to forget!
The Bible and right wing liberals seem to promote an image of that it would be impossible, wich is not true.
United we stand a chance.
But united, we are many, but not everyone.
Therefor a revolution is laying far away in time right now. Because we accept people as they are, we do not want to change their personal opinions!
Not all the way, but partly Karl Marx was right when he stated that as Capitalism grows, the militant opposition grows.
Some people of "our kind" have, in the US, voted for Bush in belief that he will grow Capitatalism bigger than it can handle... to even be.
I think the more freedom loving left wing, such as the Anarchists, stand a greater chance of getting their opinions through, at least when thinking of what the world looks like today. Because Anarchists believe in direct action and want to make a change, whenever opportunity comes, and opportunity is everywhere.

[RXP]

Also A revoultion will happen in the future, but it won't be a people's revoultion. The robots will take control ala SkyNet in the Terminator series.

[wheelchairman]

And wars will be fought in the skies, or at least on very high mountains?
To steal a joke from the Simpsons.

I think the next major social upheaval will happen in large parts of the 3rd world, which will throw the 1st world into chaos. What the results will be, I do not know.

[RXP]

Soon as AI hits the world things will start getting weird.

[nieh]

I could've (and possibly have) told you that.

[Leo_ARG]

I believe in evolution, people will get smarter, to say it simply and they will realize that you don't need a government if you are educated and have a good re-habilitation center of crazy people.

Sorry for saying it this way, in spanish I would say differently and a lot more specific and more complex.

[Satanic_Surfer]

Not even education is needed for that, only understanding.