Yes, he did. What does that have to do with whether the song deliberately copies the Bad Religion template (which the band admits)?
wow i didn't know he said that about pennywise
Actually, I don't know if he said that about Pennywise. I haven't kept up on my Pennywise news. I'm just assuming he did, 'cause Britpunk wouldn't lie, and it sounds like something Brett would say.
I like all three. I'm glad they all exist cause that means more 'skate'punk for me to listen to. I just wish the offspring would do more BR/PW and less the-cult/foo fighters/whatever-the-crap-a-mid-paced-rock-song-is-supposed-to-be-ripping-off.
I remember reading about BR playing some festival and them bitching that PW were just a cheap imitation of themselves. This would have been early-mid 00's so i assume it came from brett. I can't offer concrete evidence at this hour though...
Off the top of my head, Shattered faith sounds a lot like TKAA, so unless there's a story I don't know that tells that it was written before TKAA, it could be considered a "rip-off". If that's the case, Brett shouldn't really point fingers like that.
I feel like it's kind of silly for bands that came up at around the same time to be pointing fingers like that. Especially when none of them are exactly blazing new trials.
I am part of a degenerate elite
Dragging our society into the street
I usually think people make too big a deal about supposed ripoffs. But yeah, the issue does seem to get raised more with the Offspring than other bands. Particularly on RFRG, I think some of the criticism is merited- not just because they wrote songs that resembled others- but because ALL of the songs that they resembled were recent hits.
I guess this was in the other thread, but I read that article about CC being "The sucky sound of desperation," and they pointed out all of RFRG's similarities. I've gotta say, since I don't listen to stuff like MCR or Panic! At the Disco, I didn't notice them on my own (except for Rise and Fall/American Idiot). There is a lot of similarity going on there, except I totally disagree with the contention that "Kristy" sounds like "Wake Me up When September Ends," or that "Fix You" sounds like "Chasing Cars."
The article did change my opinion of RFRG a little bit. I initially liked it a lot because it was the first time in a while that they'd stepped out of their own comfort zone and did things that were new for them. Sadly, though, they were far from being new for the overall music scene today.
In the Offspring's defense, though, I think Brett was the one who looked stupid after the whole "All I Want" debacle. I wouldn't be surprised if they put that song on the record half-jokingly given the climate between them and Epitaph. Also, count me among the camp who thinks "Aging Orange" is one of the Vandals' funniest songs.
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