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Hyper nova

06-09-2005, 07:03 PM

Revolver-2005?

06-09-2005, 07:29 PM

they have permission cause they own the song...they can do w/e they want with it

Venom Symbiote

06-09-2005, 07:46 PM

Yeah, it's a cool observation.

I honestly love the song, though. I can't see why it was ever cut from Ignition in the first place.

I'd love to find out what the deal is with the vocals, though - they DO sound "newer" Dexter than the Iggy recordings, as someone else has said. I can't see why or how they would have re-recorded it though, if they never wanted it released/didn't want to help out Guerewitz.

It's little nitpicky things like this that keep me interested. Honestly. That's what I love about this GH release, so much trivia and shit! :)

Camilamazed

06-09-2005, 10:22 PM

neocon58

06-09-2005, 10:36 PM

They've already explained why mission from god wasnt on the album. they said they just didnt think it was good enough. its in the dexter on the songs interview.

Venom Symbiote

06-09-2005, 10:51 PM

Yeah? Sweet, got a link? I've heard about that, never seen it though. Something about "not wanting to sound like a religious band" or something?

Camilla, Brett Guerewitz (not sure if that's the right spelling, and too lazy to check) is the head of Epitaph records, has been for ages (founder?). He and the guys had a falling out post-Smash over things like royalties, contracts, and the selling of their catalogue rights to a major label. He's basically the reason they jumped ship to Columbia.

That any help?

Cejus

06-09-2005, 11:06 PM

I believe the guys will tell us something about why Mission From god got left from ignition.I must confess tho that I cannot understand this talking about Brett (Who the hell is he??) and Epitath :rolleyes:
Brett Gurewitz is (or was, I'm not sure if he still is) the owner of Epitaph records, where Offspring released Ignition and Smash. After releasing Smash, there was a trouble between Offspring and Brett... Brett is Bad Religion's guitarist, too...

You can read something very interesting about it here:

http://members.aol.com/delirium4u/offspring/letter1.txt

Hope you understand it now! :rolleyes: I'm sure The Offspring aren't completely happy about Epitaph releasing 'Mission from God'...

Venom Symbiote

06-09-2005, 11:09 PM

Did you read the replies before typing that out in response, dude? Haha, aside from the link, the same thing's already been said. :)

*thumbs up* Oh well.

Camilamazed

06-09-2005, 11:11 PM

Thank you Cejus :D

Cejus

06-10-2005, 12:19 AM

Did you read the replies before typing that out in response, dude? Haha, aside from the link, the same thing's already been said. :)

*thumbs up* Oh well.
Oh, I'm sorry, I was searching for the link while you posted that hehe :o

And, here's where Dexter talks about "Mission from God" (it's a link to the interviews section on this site, thou):

http://www.offspring.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Offspring.woa/wa/interview?interviewID=308

[D]: It was a song called ‘Mission From God‘.

[WD]: But you never did anything with that?

[D]: We just didn‘t think it was as good as the other songs and it was kinda‘ like a Blue‘s Brothers reference. We weren‘t seriously religious and so we were debating in the band that it might come across as a religious song. It wasn‘t, though. It was the farthest thing from it. Like in the vain of a ‘Bad Habit‘. The guy in the song is kooky and whacked out. I should re-write that about the Washington sniper now, huh? So that one was left off and we never did anything with it. That was that one…

Obie2trice

06-10-2005, 12:23 AM

Thanks for the letter

Venom Symbiote

06-10-2005, 12:50 AM

Yeah, Cejus, rad. That's cool, think I have read that before actually, very cool tidbit about the song.

Thanks for finding that, man. :cool: Appreciated.

Cejus

06-10-2005, 07:16 AM

Hum, what dou you people think about the letter and about this interview? Seems like Dexter wasn't very proud of the song (Mission from God). Do you think that there is still trouble between Brett and the band?

And what do you think about Brett's attitude towards the Offspring back in 1996? I think he was a bit egoistic, trying to earn more money 'cause of Offspring's fame :(

And I've got a question, too: Which Bad Religion albums were released while Brett left the band?? :confused: 'cause I've heard people talking about how shitty those albums are (I mean those albums without Brett).

funkmonkey

06-10-2005, 07:31 AM

well, if epitaph had the song, have the rights, they can release it without the offspring's permission. what they did was perfectly legal.

and to be fair....a certain indie record label named nitro released an AFI retrospective, without the bands permission...and the band was pissed.

Marit

06-10-2005, 12:11 PM

And I've got a question, too: Which Bad Religion albums were released while Brett left the band?? :confused: 'cause I've heard people talking about how shitty those albums are (I mean those albums without Brett).

The albums that where released without Brett are: "The Gray Race", "No Substance" and "The New America". Me personally don't think that they are shitty albums at all, but I know that a lot of people do.

Venom Symbiote

06-11-2005, 02:13 AM

Brett's a great musician, I just think a bit of a hypocrite with the whole label thing. He's done some AMAZING things in Bad Religion, and along with Greg Graffin is basically the staple of that band. Now, I only have The Process of Belief and The Empire Strikes First in hard-copy (along with Tested, but that's a live compilation, not sure if that counts) and a buttload (40 or so) random MP3s, so I'm not sure if I qualify to talk deep issues about BR or not, but hey: I don't think the albums without him are shit. But definitely not as good.

And GREAT point about Nitro and the AFI compo, Funkmonkey. Very well said.

Cejus, I don't think the band HATED the song. In fact from what you posted it seems they kinda like it in retrospect, in that "it was fun and had a kinda looney theme" way. They just didn't think it was AS good as the rest of the Ignition list. Which, hey, I have to respect that. I love the song, but probably really only in comparison to what they've been churning out since Americana. Is it as good as Dirty Magic? Get It Right? Session? Nothing From Something? Not likely. Hell, it amazes me to think how AWESOME The Offspring could be now with all their experience and tight song-writing ability i they were still writing that same sound. None of this "spare me the details if you don't mind!" crap. :D

Oh well.

Yeah: I think there's still bitterness between The Offspring and Epitaph. Point is, why does it matter? It's ancient history, really - this was almost 10 years ago, guys and gals.

offspring kid

06-11-2005, 05:02 AM

Even tho Mission From god Came out Tuesday That there was no metion what so ever on this site about it.

THey really don't like Epitaph and Brett do they. And must really think that that song souldn't have ever been released OR somthing.

Epitaph Blatantly didnt have permission.

i saw noodles in an interview saying that they like the Record Label and (Brad) not brett,Noodles had dinner with brad or something like that ( i downloaded that interview from www.theoffspring.info its a interview from nederlands )

Venom Symbiote

06-12-2005, 01:42 AM

Who the eskimo is "Brad"? :confused:

jasofern

06-12-2005, 04:32 AM

yeah good question venom

Hyper nova

06-12-2005, 05:25 AM

i saw noodles in an interview saying that they like the Record Label and (Brad) not brett,Noodles had dinner with brad or something like that ( i downloaded that interview from www.theoffspring.info its a interview from nederlands )

Its Probabally why Ixnay was still release on Epitaph Europe Cause its not directly involved with Brett.

Hyper nova

06-12-2005, 05:26 AM

Who the eskimo is "Brad"? :confused:

I think hes one of the higher people in Epitaph.

jasofern

06-12-2005, 05:59 AM

ah ok i was wondering who the fuck Brad was....

Marit

06-12-2005, 06:20 AM

i saw noodles in an interview saying that they like the Record Label and (Brad) not brett,Noodles had dinner with brad or something like that ( i downloaded that interview from www.theoffspring.info its a interview from nederlands )

Okay, I cannot seem to find this interview you're talking about. Surely it could not have been the Lowlands '99 interview?
Besides, what does Brad have to do with anything? They aren't mad at the Epitaph employes, as far as I know, they never where. They are/where mad at Brett.

Cejus

06-12-2005, 06:44 AM

Okay, I cannot seem to find this interview you're talking about. Surely it could not have been the Lowlands '99 interview?
Besides, what does Brad have to do with anything? They aren't mad at the Epitaph employes, as far as I know, they never where. They are/where mad at Brett.
I agree with you, I always thought they had troubles with Brett, not with other Epitaph people. According to Dexter's letter, it was Brett who wanted to sell them to another label... So I suppose they only were angry with him.

And, by the way, I do like Bad Religion's "The new America" and "The grey Race". Just can't find the difference between those albums and e.g. "Stranger than Fiction" (which was released with Brett in the band, wasn't it?)... :rolleyes:

Marit

06-12-2005, 06:49 AM

And, by the way, I do like Bad Religion's "The new America" and "The grey Race". Just can't find the difference between those albums and e.g. "Stranger than Fiction" (which was released with Brett in the band, wasn't it?)... :rolleyes:

Yes, "Stranger than Fiction" was released with Brett.

Marit

06-12-2005, 06:53 AM