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Stevodoc
09-18-2005, 03:44 PM
Today when reading an artice on the proposed "Freedom Tower" in the place of the world trade centres, it got me thinking about how much i hate those Americans who put their "God Bless America" ethichs before common sense.

I think for some Americans, patriotism is an excuse to put themselves abouve other minorities and also serves as a base for their gun culture/superpower superiority/shit foreign policy/arrogance to nme but a few things. What "patriots" need to realise is that true patriotism lies in what is just and right, NOT in following ones country witout questin, a key example being Iraq. Its rediculous name being evidence enough, "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

Another thing that really gets me is the view that in order to be a patriot, you also have to be conservtive and uphold the constitution etc. but surely a true patriot would do what is best for his country, and should this mean reassesing the constitution and changing it for the better, ie "every man has the right to bear arms."

Finally, one key point of patriotism is the nfluence of religion, "One nation, under God". Surely in a country as multi-culturaly as the USA, the land of opportunity, this cross between of politics and religion has no place yet so often God is tied to patriotism, the key example being the President Himself.

Well, there goes my view on th matter and i just wanted to see what everyone else thought, it will be interesting to see the reactions of various nationalities of people.

wheelchairman
09-18-2005, 03:56 PM
I lived in Magherafelt for a short while two years ago, hahah. What a shit hole. Actually it was Coagh, but I had classes in Magherafelt.

The American political use of Patriotism is no different than in your own country, you are just more blind to your own.

Stevodoc
09-18-2005, 04:01 PM
The only form of Patriotism in my country is between asshole republicans and asshole loyalists. I hate them both equally. Whens the last time you heard someone saying "im sick of those Northern Irish and their patriotism?

I refer to the "patriotism" we can see from normal American citizans, not just politicians.

Ps, never expected to find someone who knew magherafelt on these forums, what school did you go to classes in?

wheelchairman
09-18-2005, 04:11 PM
I don't remember. It was a Business College. It wasn't too intense.

And the average American patriotism, is seriously, no different than other countries. I've lived in Ireland, and I saw more union jacks than I did Stars and Stripes in the states.

Stevodoc
09-18-2005, 04:15 PM
Not to get off topic, but Union Jacks aren't patriotism, its more a product of the pointless fued between idiot minorities. The people in Northern Ireland usually don't go for that crpa, the people who hang those are the equivilant of islamic extremists

T-6005
09-18-2005, 05:39 PM
Not to bust your balls, but you're too defensive. Misplaced patriotism is as common where you are as anywhere else. The spotlight's just on the US. Realize that.

Sin Studly
09-18-2005, 11:06 PM
Fucking porridge-nigger, the Irish are worse than the Americans. In every way possible.

Stevodoc
09-19-2005, 03:31 AM
You are a white supremesist so i can't possibly take your opinion seriously...

Sin Studly
09-19-2005, 05:46 AM
At least I'm not a bigot like you.

endlesst0m
09-21-2005, 03:58 PM
At least I'm not a bigot like you.

an irish hating white supremacist?!?!?!!??!

Sin Studly
09-21-2005, 10:30 PM
But I'm open-minded enough to take the opinions of bog-niggers seriously. This bigoted fool is so narrowminded he rejects anything I might say before even considering it, out of his bigoted prejudice.

T-6005
09-21-2005, 10:32 PM
But I'm open-minded enough to take the opinions of bog-niggers seriously. This bigoted fool is so narrowminded he rejects anything I might say before even considering it, out of his bigoted prejudice.

Yes. He rejects things bigotfully. He's so bigotational.

Sin Studly
09-22-2005, 09:28 PM
As a renowned bigotologist, I should recognise bigotation when I see it.

satrap
09-24-2005, 02:01 PM
im sick of americans thinking their country is perfect

0r4ng3
09-24-2005, 02:04 PM
im sick of americans thinking their country is perfect
I'm sick of non-Americans who think that all Americans think our country is perfect.

wheelchairman
09-24-2005, 03:32 PM
im sick of americans thinking their country is perfect
Yeah, it's *our* conservative party that is the definition of Imperialism...

shadowind
09-26-2005, 03:43 PM
satrap
don't generalize

when you clearly have little info

TheUnholyNightbringer
09-26-2005, 06:10 PM
Patriotism can lead to nationalism, which can lead to racism, which can lead to Jenny.

'Nuff said.

Sin Studly
09-27-2005, 01:01 PM
It could just as easily lead to the extermination of the Poles or Jews. Which could lead to not-Jenny.

T-6005
09-28-2005, 10:31 PM
Which, nice as it would be, should not be admissible as an argument, because it would be way too convincing in a debate.