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endlesst0m
10-27-2005, 10:58 PM
That one Fugazi song sounds a lot like "Gone Away". Know any others?
Edit: i don't know the name of the song but someone brought it up here before...
SkunkIt
10-27-2005, 11:04 PM
Oh yeah, that one Fugazi song on that one album. I know exactly what you're talking about. That song about that thing.
Apathy
10-27-2005, 11:05 PM
that one Fugazi song sounds a lot like "Gone Away". Know any others?
Why Can't you get a Job was based on Ob La Di Ob La Da.
Theres a Sum 41 song that sounds like Dammit I changed again.
There's a vandals song that the chorus is the same tune as Walla Walla.
While I'm at it, She's A rebel by Green Day, Molly's Lips by Nirvana, and a song by Rancid (I think it's on the ...And Out Come The Wolves cd) have the exact same guitar riff in them.
.:SMASH:.
10-28-2005, 12:36 AM
that one Fugazi song sounds a lot like "Gone Away". Know any others?
most of smash sounds like nirvana
Ceejio21
10-28-2005, 02:49 AM
The intro to Gone Away sounds almost identical to Oasis' "Live Forever"
neocon58
10-28-2005, 04:44 AM
most of smash sounds like nirvana
May I say wtf?
-Smells Like Teen Spirit (Nirvana), More Than A Feeling (Boston), Little Things (Bush).
These sound like 'Self Esteem'.
-Hooch (Sum 41), Social Suicide (Bad Religion).
The intro's sound like 'Da Hui' and 'Come Out Swinging'.
-Shattered Faith (Bad Religion).
Sounds like 'The Kids Aren't Alright'. I heard 'Shattered Faith' was originally an Offspring song.
-Reach For The Sky (Social Distortion).
The entire song sounds like 'Can't Repeat'.
Theres a Sum 41 song that sounds like Dammit I changed again.
There's a vandals song that the chorus is the same tune as Walla Walla.Sum 41 - Still Waiting
Vandals - Too Much Drama
Hypodermic_89
10-28-2005, 04:56 AM
Sum 41 - Mr. Amsterdam is very similar to Dammit, I changed again
DirtyMagic_FIN
10-28-2005, 05:25 AM
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit, Boston - More Than a Feeling, and Bush - Little Things. These songs have kinda similar intro riff.
Here is a link where you can listen to these similarities
http://ramk.net/archives/000052.html
Mooose
10-28-2005, 05:31 AM
The riff from the beginning of Have You Ever is in The Unseen Tears of the Albacore by The Vandals
icklebabygremlin
10-28-2005, 08:06 AM
Demons sounds like Wasted by T.S.O.L
Little_Miss_1565
10-28-2005, 09:35 AM
There's a vandals song that the chorus is the same tune as Walla Walla.
Rather...."Walla Walla" has the same tune as "Too Much Drama" by the Vandals. Dexter wrote "Walla Walla" for the Vandals circa their Hitler Bad, Vandals Good album, but they didn't like it all that much so they rewrote the lyrics, kept the tune, and recorded it as "Too Much Drama." If you look at the liner notes for that album, the writing is credited to 'Holland, Quackenbush,' meaning Dexter and Dave.
Dexter recorded "Walla Walla" as it was originally intended for Americana, which came out shortly thereafter.
Little_Miss_1565
10-28-2005, 09:35 AM
Demons sounds like Wasted by T.S.O.L
The entire S/T album sounds like TSOL ;)
icklebabygremlin
10-28-2005, 09:37 AM
The entire S/T album sounds like TSOL ;)
well thats true
This isn't a guitar riff, but the begging to gotta get away sounds exactly like the begging to a TSOL song, but i can't think of the name right now. (the tom, tom, snare, snare.)
notoriousdoc
10-28-2005, 12:19 PM
Demons sounds like Wasted by T.S.O.L
Does it? It's never hit me
punker
10-28-2005, 01:00 PM
the intro of honey, this mirror isn't big enough for the two of us from MCR, sounds like kids aren't allright
endlesst0m
10-28-2005, 01:01 PM
Alien by Pennywise and Can't Get My Head Around You have similiar palm muting riffs, and the drums even come in the same way.
uvutuy
10-28-2005, 04:07 PM
the oondag leppin lompin loomin bit in pretty fly was from "rock of ages" def lepperd whoever they are
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-Reach For The Sky (Social Distortion).
The entire song sounds like 'Can't Repeat'.
r.f.t.s. doesn't sound like can't repeat.
Demons sounds like Wasted by T.S.O.L
they don't sound anything alike.
and it would be "wasted sounds like demons" not vice versa
BananaFish
10-28-2005, 04:14 PM
the oondag leppin lompin loomin bit in pretty fly was from "rock of ages" def lepperd whoever they are
O.O Whoever they are?!? *dies of shock*
Okay, spazz-out's done, now time to be helpful! Read me, for I am Wikipedia, and I know all! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard)
uvutuy
10-28-2005, 04:19 PM
O.O Whoever they are?!? *dies of shock*
Okay, spazz-out's done, now time to be helpful! Read me, for I am Wikipedia, and I know all! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Leppard)
look i have never ever heard of def lepperd i just looked at the lyrics booklet for G.R and it says "contains a sample from "rock of ages" etc.
def lepperd music" blah blah blah
H1T_That
10-28-2005, 05:43 PM
first off....youve never heard of def lepard...woooow....they are really famous...
and second...a guitars a guitar....theres only so many riffs you can play...things are bound to sound the same
nameless
10-28-2005, 05:52 PM
Why Can't you get a Job was based on Ob La Di Ob La Da.
Theres a Sum 41 song that sounds like Dammit I changed again.
There's a vandals song that the chorus is the same tune as Walla Walla.
While I'm at it, She's A rebel by Green Day, Molly's Lips by Nirvana, and a song by Rancid (I think it's on the ...And Out Come The Wolves cd) have the exact same guitar riff in them.
is the vandals one from the look what i almost stepped in album?!
original_prankster
10-28-2005, 06:23 PM
'Honey This Mirror Isn't Big Enough For The Two Of Us' by My Chemical Romance sounds alot like 'The Kids Aren't Alright' guitar-wise, and so does a certain part in the Hawthorne Heights single 'Niki FM'.
H1T_That
10-28-2005, 06:27 PM
'Honey This Mirror Isn't Big Enough For The Two Of Us' by My Chemical Romance sounds alot like 'The Kids Aren't Alright' <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=guitar" onmouseover="window.status='guitar'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">guitar</a>-wise, and so does a certain part in the Hawthorne Heights single 'Niki FM'.
lol, i see where your coming from, 'honey this mirror aint big enought for the both of us'. and 'niki FM' do sound like 'the kinds arent alright' in certain parts
Little_Miss_1565
10-28-2005, 08:15 PM
is the vandals one from the look what i almost stepped in album?!
Read the reply I already made about that.
bd007h
10-28-2005, 08:25 PM
-Smells Like Teen Spirit (Nirvana), More Than A Feeling (Boston), Little Things (Bush).
These sound like 'Self Esteem'.
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. I think the Boston song was first, then Nirvana, then Self Esteem, then Little Things. I'll try and find a link that has clips of all 4 riffs
bd007h
10-28-2005, 08:45 PM
Autonomist sent me the link a month or so ago. I'll have to ask him what the URL was again.
i held up dexter at gunpoint and robbed him of his riffs
endlesst0m
11-01-2005, 09:46 AM
the intro riff to Greed by Pennywise is the same as the riff in the chorus of Nitro by Offspring.
icklebabygremlin
11-01-2005, 10:10 AM
Does it? It's never hit me
the bass at the start
Offspring-Fanatic
11-01-2005, 04:49 PM
-Smells Like Teen Spirit (Nirvana),
These sound like 'Self Esteem'.
actually i've got to disagree on that. i don't see a whole lot of similarity. the..umm..how should i put it...tone? chord? I DONT SPEAK GUITAR but say one is in C and one is in B? what would that be called? im not saying it is (for C and B) but um what would that be called? if whatever word that is i see a difference.
bd007h
11-01-2005, 04:53 PM
It sounds very similar. It's the same 4 chord progression.
endlesst0m
11-01-2005, 10:30 PM
teen spirit and self esteem? i know both of them on guitar and the chords really aren't that similar, but for some reason they do have a really similar sound. maybe its the similar rythm?
bd007h
11-01-2005, 10:34 PM
they sound like the same distance in steps on the scale from eachother, but a different key or something.
endlesst0m
11-01-2005, 10:35 PM
i dunno...that first interval, with the first two chords from each song are VERY different...
im not sure what the correct interval name is, but in self esteem the first interval for the first two chords is like 3 whole pitches higher, which isnt even close. i dont get why it sounds so similar though...any music theory people?
Tisiacs
11-03-2005, 10:51 AM
teen spirit and self esteem? i know both of them on guitar and the chords really aren't that similar, but for some reason they do have a really similar sound. maybe its the similar rythm?
i don't think they both have a similar rythm
Skate Rat 19
11-03-2005, 02:16 PM
Why Can't you get a Job was based on Ob La Di Ob La Da.
Theres a Sum 41 song that sounds like Dammit I changed again.
There's a vandals song that the chorus is the same tune as Walla Walla.
While I'm at it, She's A rebel by Green Day, Molly's Lips by Nirvana, and a song by Rancid (I think it's on the ...And Out Come The Wolves cd) have the exact same guitar riff in them.
yes there is a sum 41 song like, i almost thought it was sum 41 when i forst baught CO1.
Dex90
11-03-2005, 02:37 PM
it does,
the intro to the afi cd sing the sorrow reminds me SLIGHTLY of neocon
Nitro Punk
11-03-2005, 04:14 PM
"Beheaded" sounds a lot like "Garden of serenity" from Ramones
pretty_fly_white_guy858
11-03-2005, 06:43 PM
Summer by Sum 41 has a slight similarity to Beheaded as well. When I first listened to it I thought it was Offspring
Unnatural Disaster
11-03-2005, 06:54 PM
"Self Esteem" and "Going Under" by Evanesence sound similar
Telekinesis
11-03-2005, 11:23 PM
the drums at the beginning of Shadowland by Youth Group sound like the drums at the beginning od Gotta Get Away. Also a song by Vasco Rossi (an italian singer) has the same riff as Pretty Fly
arjunthakur559
11-03-2005, 11:32 PM
The riff from the beginning of Have You Ever is in The Unseen Tears of the Albacore by The Vandals
dude i fukin agreeeeeee
dain84
11-04-2005, 12:00 AM
Autonomist sent me the link a month or so ago. I'll have to ask him what the URL was again.
Actually, I sent you the link.
bd007h
11-04-2005, 12:31 AM
send it to me again
bd007h
11-04-2005, 01:02 AM
here's the article from that site
Lifted Riffs
I heard a long time ago that the main riff from Offspring - Self Esteem was lifted from Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit, and after listening, it did sound pretty similar to me. I was telling this to a few friends (Yono and Sunny) who didn't believe me, so here's 'proof.' Again all this shows is that they are very similar riffs, not that one actually copied the other, because it is of course possible that two bands could come up with the same riff...
While searching the web for info on this, I ran into a page that said Bush also lifted the main riff in Little Things. Also Noe said that another guitar player had told him that the Nirvana riff is actually very similar to Boston's More Than a Feeling, which really suprised me, but I listened to it, and it was. So here are short clips from each songs (just the riff) and a few overlays for you to listen to, so you can decide for yourself, if you don't believe me.
Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (http://ramk.net/files/riff/Nirvana.mp3)
Boston - More Than a Feeling (http://ramk.net/files/riff/Boston.mp3)
Offspring - Self Esteem (http://ramk.net/files/riff/Offspring.mp3)
Bush - Little Things (http://ramk.net/files/riff/Bush.mp3)
Since all the songs aren't the same tempo, I timed the riff for each song. 4.072 seconds for Nirvana, 4.319 for Boston, and 4.477 for Offspring. Then I increased the tempo (preserving pitch) on the Boston and Offspring songs, and then overlaid each on top of the Nirvana, so you could hear the similarites. It's a little hard to listen to, and the beats aren't exactly on top of each other, but I'm no recording wizard, so it'll take a little imagination on your part. It's kind of neat to hear Boston singing over Nirvana's rough guitar. (I didn't do Bush, because I was getting lazy.)
Nirvana and Boston (http://ramk.net/files/riff/Nirvana-Boston.mp3)
Nirvana and Offspring (http://ramk.net/files/riff/Nirvana-Offspring.mp3)
As a side note, I don't see anything wrong with 'lifting' riffs. A good riff is a good riff. It's just good to know where the music came from. It's cool that the riff was a part of 4 hit songs. Objections, comments, and insights from more knowledgeable people are requested, since I don't know much more than my ear tells me, which isn't much. Some tab/sheet music comparisons would be better than what I did...if anyone is up for it.
i saw tsol live and thought they were playing gotta get away as the drums were identical, this was some years ago, so cant remember wot thesong was tho, but they are not a patch on offspring even tho they are major innfluences of dexters
bd007h
11-04-2005, 04:33 PM
I haven't heard enough of TSOL to make a comparison.
dalaksta
11-05-2005, 06:48 AM
Oh yeah, that one Fugazi song on that one album. I know exactly what you're talking about. That song about that thing.
lol
funny
Total_immortal
11-05-2005, 10:06 AM
r.f.t.s. doesn't sound like can't repeat.
right, it doesn't
dain84
11-05-2005, 11:40 AM
right, it doesn't
Reach for the sky sounds like The Kids Aren't Alright. It also has the same subject has Can't Repeat.
bd007h
11-05-2005, 03:03 PM
could someone upload Reach For The Sky? I haven't heard it.
bd007h
11-09-2005, 10:28 PM
I just noticed the bass line at the beginning of Can't Repeat sounds like the bass line at the beginning of Mudshovel by Staind
endlesst0m
11-10-2005, 08:18 AM
yeah that does sound really similar...
the quiet part in "defy you" sounds like that song "outside" by stained too...
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