Maria vs. Chup

[Chup]

Oy!!

Together my friend Maria..we shall rule this Forum!

[Floyd the Barber]

Retarded..

[Jebus]

why do write Chup versus Maria? Versus means that you two guys are against each other.

[Vicky]

Croats.. first it was MOTA BOY, and now this. siiigh..

[Chup]

why do write Chup versus Maria? Versus means that you two guys are against each other.

please tell me something I don't know...

[Jebus]

and what was the reason you wrote versus again?

[Chup]

Retarded..

Who? You?
Don't be like that...
why are you here then?

[Chup]

Croats.. first it was MOTA BOY, and now this. siiigh..

Here's what you gotta do...
1. Find Croatia on the map!
2. Open the window.
3. Throw youself!

[Chup]

and what was the reason you wrote versus again?

I am waiting for Maria to join...
and then you'll see...

[TheUnholyNightbringer]

Oh, do shut up, you moron.

[Jebus]

it should be chub and maria not chup versus maria.

[Vicky]

Here's what you gotta do...
1. Find Croatia on the map!
2. Open the window.
3. Throw youself!

What does finding Croatia on the map have to do with opening a window, or throwing myself? And throwing myself where?

[Chup]

'cause most of the people don't know where Croatia really is...
And throwing myself where?

1. Open the window.
2. Throw yourself out of the window.

[Vicky]

right. I'd rather not. Thanks all the same. And I study Geography at college, so, yeh.

[the_GoDdEsS]

Schizophrenia is a chronic, severe, and disabling brain disease. Approximately 1 percent of the population develops schizophrenia during their lifetime – more than 2 million Americans suffer from the illness in a given year. Although schizophrenia affects men and women with equal frequency, the disorder often appears earlier in men, usually in the late teens or early twenties, than in women, who are generally affected in the twenties to early thirties. People with schizophrenia often suffer terrifying symptoms such as hearing internal voices not heard by others, or believing that other people are reading their minds, controlling their thoughts, or plotting to harm them. These symptoms may leave them fearful and withdrawn. Their speech and behavior can be so disorganized that they may be incomprehensible or frightening to others. Available treatments can relieve many symptoms, but most people with schizophrenia continue to suffer some symptoms throughout their lives; it has been estimated that no more than one in five individuals recovers completely.

This is a time of hope for people with schizophrenia and their families. Research is gradually leading to new and safer medications and unraveling the complex causes of the disease. Scientists are using many approaches from the study of molecular genetics to the study of populations to learn about schizophrenia. Methods of imaging the brain’s structure and function hold the promise of new insights into the disorder.

Schizophrenia As An Illness

Schizophrenia is found all over the world. The severity of the symptoms and long-lasting, chronic pattern of schizophrenia often cause a high degree of disability. Medications and other treatments for schizophrenia, when used regularly and as prescribed, can help reduce and control the distressing symptoms of the illness. However, some people are not greatly helped by available treatments or may prematurely discontinue treatment because of unpleasant side effects or other reasons. Even when treatment is effective, persisting consequences of the illness – lost opportunities, stigma, residual symptoms, and medication side effects – may be very troubling.

The first signs of schizophrenia often appear as confusing, or even shocking, changes in behavior. Coping with the symptoms of schizophrenia can be especially difficult for family members who remember how involved or vivacious a person was before they became ill. The sudden onset of severe psychotic symptoms is referred to as an “acute” phase of schizophrenia. “Psychosis,” a common condition in schizophrenia, is a state of mental impairment marked by hallucinations, which are disturbances of sensory perception, and/or delusions, which are false yet strongly held personal beliefs that result from an inability to separate real from unreal experiences. Less obvious symptoms, such as social isolation or withdrawal, or unusual speech, thinking, or behavior, may precede, be seen along with, or follow the psychotic symptoms.

Some people have only one such psychotic episode; others have many episodes during a lifetime, but lead relatively normal lives during the interim periods. However, the individual with “chronic” schizophrenia, or a continuous or recurring pattern of illness, often does not fully recover normal functioning and typically requires long-term treatment, generally including medication, to control the symptoms.

Making A Diagnosis

It is important to rule out other illnesses, as sometimes people suffer severe mental symptoms or even psychosis due to undetected underlying medical conditions. For this reason, a medical history should be taken and a physical examination and laboratory tests should be done to rule out other possible causes of the symptoms before concluding that a person has schizophrenia. In addition, since commonly abused drugs may cause symptoms resembling schizophrenia, blood or urine samples from the person can be tested at hospitals or physicians’ offices for the presence of these drugs.

At times, it is difficult to tell one mental disorder from another. For instance, some people with symptoms of schizophrenia exhibit prolonged extremes of elated or depressed mood, and it is important to determine whether such a patient has schizophrenia or actually has a manic-depressive (or bipolar) disorder or major depressive disorder. Persons whose symptoms cannot be clearly categorized are sometimes diagnosed as having a “schizoaffective disorder.”

Can Children Have Schizophrenia?

Children over the age of five can develop schizophrenia, but it is very rare before adolescence. Although some people who later develop schizophrenia may have seemed different from other children at an early age, the psychotic symptoms of schizophrenia – hallucinations and delusions – are extremely uncommon before adolescence.

The World of People With Schizophrenia


Distorted Perceptions of Reality
People with schizophrenia may have perceptions of reality that are strikingly different from the reality seen and shared by others around them. Living in a world distorted by hallucinations and delusions, individuals with schizophrenia may feel frightened, anxious, and confused.

In part because of the unusual realities they experience, people with schizophrenia may behave very differently at various times. Sometimes they may seem distant, detached, or preoccupied and may even sit as rigidly as a stone, not moving for hours or uttering a sound. Other times they may move about constantly – always occupied, appearing wide-awake, vigilant, and alert.


Hallucinations and Illusions
Hallucinations and illusions are disturbances of perception that are common in people suffering from schizophrenia. Hallucinations are perceptions that occur without connection to an appropriate source. Although hallucinations can occur in any sensory form – auditory (sound), visual (sight), tactile (touch), gustatory (taste), and olfactory (smell) – hearing voices that other people do not hear is the most common type of hallucination in schizophrenia. Voices may describe the patient’s activities, carry on a conversation, warn of impending dangers, or even issue orders to the individual. Illusions, on the other hand, occur when a sensory stimulus is present but is incorrectly interpreted by the individual.


Delusions
Delusions are false personal beliefs that are not subject to reason or contradictory evidence and are not explained by a person’s usual cultural concepts. Delusions may take on different themes. For example, patients suffering from paranoid-type symptoms – roughly one-third of people with schizophrenia – often have delusions of persecution, or false and irrational beliefs that they are being cheated, harassed, poisoned, or conspired against. These patients may believe that they, or a member of the family or someone close to them, are the focus of this persecution. In addition, delusions of grandeur, in which a person may believe he or she is a famous or important figure, may occur in schizophrenia. Sometimes the delusions experienced by people with schizophrenia are quite bizarre; for instance, believing that a neighbor is controlling their behavior with magnetic waves; that people on television are directing special messages to them; or that their thoughts are being broadcast aloud to others.

[the_GoDdEsS]

Disordered Thinking
Schizophrenia often affects a person’s ability to “think straight.” Thoughts may come and go rapidly; the person may not be able to concentrate on one thought for very long and may be easily distracted, unable to focus attention.

People with schizophrenia may not be able to sort out what is relevant and what is not relevant to a situation. The person may be unable to connect thoughts into logical sequences, with thoughts becoming disorganized and fragmented. This lack of logical continuity of thought, termed “thought disorder,” can make conversation very difficult and may contribute to social isolation. If people cannot make sense of what an individual is saying, they are likely to become uncomfortable and tend to leave that person alone.


Emotional Expression
People with schizophrenia often show “blunted” or “flat” affect. This refers to a severe reduction in emotional expressiveness. A person with schizophrenia may not show the signs of normal emotion, perhaps may speak in a monotonous voice, have diminished facial expressions, and appear extremely apathetic. The person may withdraw socially, avoiding contact with others; and when forced to interact, he or she may have nothing to say, reflecting “impoverished thought.” Motivation can be greatly decreased, as can interest in or enjoyment of life. In some severe cases, a person can spend entire days doing nothing at all, even neglecting basic hygiene. These problems with emotional expression and motivation, which may be extremely troubling to family members and friends, are symptoms of schizophrenia – not character flaws or personal weaknesses.


Normal Versus Abnormal
At times, normal individuals may feel, think, or act in ways that resemble schizophrenia. Normal people may sometimes be unable to “think straight.” They may become extremely anxious, for example, when speaking in front of groups and may feel confused, be unable to pull their thoughts together, and forget what they had intended to say. This is not schizophrenia. At the same time, people with schizophrenia do not always act abnormally. Indeed, some people with the illness can appear completely normal and be perfectly responsible, even while they experience hallucinations or delusions. An individual’s behavior may change over time, becoming bizarre if medication is stopped and returning closer to normal when receiving appropriate treatment.

[RADIUM88]

hey GoDdEsS, why did you change your picture. you still look hot in this one but you looked more like a goddess in the other one ;)

[the_GoDdEsS]

hey GoDdEsS, why did you change your picture. you still look hot in this one but you looked more like a goddess in the other one ;)

Thanks. Felt like I needed a change.

[Maria]

OMG What happend here?!

[Floyd the Barber]

Who? You?
Don't be like that...
why are you here then?

No, I meant you and your piece-of-shit thread, dumbass.

Why are YOU here if you just post crap?

[wheelchairman]

Everyone knows that by all right, Croatia should be a part of Greater Serbia.

[Chup]

If you think it's crap...don't read it...

[Maria]

Everyone knows that by all right, Croatia should be a part of Greater Serbia.

Okay dude, that's not right at all. :(

[wheelchairman]

The truth cannot be denied.

[Maria]

So you basically saying that we fought and died for nothing?!

[wheelchairman]

Yes I am. That is exactly what I'm saying.

[Rabbit209]

who is we? obivuoulsy you didnt die or you wouldnt be on here. stupid cunt.

[Maria]

who is we? obivuoulsy you didnt die or you wouldnt be on here. stupid cunt.

*WE* as Croatian people.
My father was in that war.
And you spoiled selfrighteous pricks wouldn't know how it is to fear for your own life 'couse in every moment a granate could fall on your head, and your house and your loved ones and even you could end up dead.
No i'm shure you don't know how it feels, and that's why you think you can have these kind of thoughts.
I'm sorry i didn't wanna go this way on you, but i can see no other way to explain to you how much painful this what you've said to me is.
I came here on this bbs to have fun and to hang around with people who have the same interests in music, i didn't know you all feel that way about us.
That's all, i just hope you don't really mean what you have written.

[dirty_magic]

oooo isn't chup kool, he lives in croatia and tells people to jump out of windows because they reply to his pointless topic, which he has only started to attract attention to himself... fucking retarded loner

[Izie]

Maria: Relax, Rabbit just can't comprehend compund sentences, so no, he probably doens't mean it the way you think he means it. He has most likely never even heard of that war.

[Maria]

I can't relax, 'couse it hurts.

[Izie]

Of course it does, but if you intend to take everything on this board THAT seriously... You won't have much of the fun you came for, trust me.

[wheelchairman]

Well according to Chup she came here to rule the forum with him.

[Maria]

I just hate when people act like that.
I'll be fine, i won't let this to ruin my time on this bbs.
Thank you Izie. :)

[Izie]

WCM: Yeah... Like I said, if you take everything on this forum THAT seriously...

People who rule this forum already exist anyway :p

[Izie]

I just hate when people act like that.
I'll be fine, i won't let this to ruin my time on this bbs.
Thank you Izie. :)

No probs :)
I'm in the nice mood tonight ;)

[Maria]

Well according to Chup she came here to rule the forum with him.
With *HER*, please. :)
And we were messing around, these are some inside jokes that we have, i couldn't imagine that would lead us where it did.

[wheelchairman]

ah well they are boring for the rest of us. Then some of us decide to make them more interesting.

[Maria]

ah well they are boring for the rest of us. Then some of us decide to make them more interesting...
...in a rude way.

[Chup]

ah well they are boring for the rest of us. Then some of us decide to make them more interesting.

your ''mission'' of making it interesting is failed with that war thing!
that's not interesting, it's sad!

[wheelchairman]

Well obviously.

[Maria]

Okay, lets just leave this thread, there's nothing to say here anymore, ain't there?
Greetings... i'm off to bed...

[Amelie]

aarrggghh...almost everyone is just arguing here...what's the big deal, if Chup and Maria have their "fight" :confused: