View Full Version : Who's Jennifer and Phoebe?
_Peanut_
06-05-2006, 01:27 PM
Who's Jennifer and Phoebe in the song "Jennifer lost the war" on the firs album? Someone who knows if they're special or something? Or is it just a name? :confused:
Thomas
06-05-2006, 01:34 PM
As far as I know, they are just random names to add a humanizing effect to the message of the song.
Jojan
06-05-2006, 01:42 PM
"Little Miss 1565" existed. She was the most well-known victim of a circus fire. She was never found ("Little Miss 1565, Your soul remains unclaimed") , and there's some conspiracy theories about her death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Miss_1565#Little_Miss_1565
(even if this wasn't part of the question made in the thread)
Rutegard
06-05-2006, 01:47 PM
"Little Miss 1565" existed. She was the most well-known victim of a circus fire. She was never found ("Little Miss 1565, Your soul remains unclaimed") , and there's some conspiracy theories about her death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Miss_1565#Little_Miss_1565
(even if this wasn't part of the question made in the thread)
she was found...but no one claimed her!!......
right?
That_Guy91
06-05-2006, 01:54 PM
she was found...but no one claimed her!!......
right?
Not at the time the song was written, no.
killer_queen
06-05-2006, 01:56 PM
I have always thought they were Jennifer Anniston and Phoebe from the suckiest show Friends. But then I realized that one of them was the actress' and the other one was the character's name so it kinda didn't made any sense. After that, I learned that the song was released in '89 so I stopped thinking about it.
Little_Miss_1565
06-05-2006, 03:16 PM
Not at the time the song was written, no.
Evidence now suggests that the name given to Little Miss 1565 in recent years, Eleanor Cook, is not the actual identity of the girl. So, she's still unclaimed, though buried in Massachusetts under that name.
DexterWannabe
06-05-2006, 03:17 PM
I have always thought they were Jennifer Anniston and Phoebe from the suckiest show Friends. But then I realized that one of them was the actress' and the other one was the character's name so it kinda didn't made any sense. After that, I learned that the song was released in '89 so I stopped thinking about it.
what? how was you thinking?
Mr. Orange
06-05-2006, 03:26 PM
As far as I know, they are just random names to add a humanizing effect to the message of the song.
Exactly. I think they're just random. Like Shannon in Way Down the Line, and like Jamie, Mark, Jay, and Brandon in The Kids Aren't Alright.
Emily_offspring_fan
06-05-2006, 03:39 PM
The same with the girls in 52 girls? I know it's a cover but...
Mr. Orange
06-05-2006, 03:45 PM
I just thought of another one. Johnny in No Hero
Corpse
06-05-2006, 03:49 PM
It was probably either complete random or a friend of the band. There is a slight chance that someone called Jennifer was 6 years old and burned and raped around California, I dunno.
Mr. Orange
06-05-2006, 04:25 PM
It was probably either complete random or a friend of the band. There is a slight chance that someone called Jennifer was 6 years old and burned and raped around California, I dunno.
Yeah, there's a slight chance. But on the off chance that it actually did happen to someone Dexter knew, or even heard about, I doubt he would've used her real name in the song.
i-want-him-only
06-05-2006, 05:55 PM
Here's the translation back to english of something that i found on this:
Jennifer Lost The War: (live chat with Offspring done on 13/11/00 on www.twec.com)
Question: What were you thinking when you wrote Jennifer Los The War? did she really existed?
Dexter: I wrote it about a news i read a long time ago. It was of this little girl who apeared in the morgue and they called her "little miss 1565" because nobody went to identify her. It was her autopsy number or something like that.
it was here (http://www.offspring.com.ar/significado_1.htm)
Lizardus
06-05-2006, 06:01 PM
They are Dexter's bitches.
I thought that one was obvious.
Emily_offspring_fan
06-05-2006, 07:12 PM
Here's the translation back to english of something that i found on this:
Jennifer Lost The War: (live chat with Offspring done on 13/11/00 on www.twec.com)
Question: What were you thinking when you wrote Jennifer Los The War? did she really existed?
Dexter: I wrote it about a news i read a long time ago. It was of this little girl who apeared in the morgue and they called her "little miss 1565" because nobody went to identify her. It was her autopsy number or something like that.
it was here (http://www.offspring.com.ar/significado_1.htm)
Dexter is talking about Little Miss 1565 there, not about Jennifer or Phoebe.
Little_Miss_1565
06-05-2006, 07:48 PM
If memory serves, Jennifer and Phoebe were girls whose murders Dexter read about in the newspaper.
Ninty Man
06-05-2006, 08:28 PM
I have always thought they were Jennifer Anniston and Phoebe from the suckiest show Friends. But then I realized that one of them was the actress' and the other one was the character's name so it kinda didn't made any sense. After that, I learned that the song was released in '89 so I stopped thinking about it.
Seriously... stfu
That's the most stupid thing i've ever read
That_Guy91
06-05-2006, 09:50 PM
Seriously... stfu
That's the most stupid thing i've ever read
Other than your user title.
Ninty Man
06-05-2006, 10:09 PM
Other than your user title.
If I put something in Spanish, it will have not sense for you
Thomas
06-05-2006, 10:28 PM
If I put something in Spanish, it will have not sense for you
oh the irony...
BoRiS_BRitVA
06-06-2006, 05:18 AM
If I put something in Spanish, it will have not sense for you
oh dude, i've put something in russian written in english letters, my nickname has no sense for most people here, but i don't care :D
Ninty Man
06-06-2006, 07:48 PM
oh the irony...
It made me laugh
hey Boris... what does your nick means
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