Even money doesn’t make me happy any more…

[Rilex]

...Would you believe it????

[SplinterByMyOwnDesign]

No. Money makes me happy.

[Corpse]

...Would you believe it????

That is alot of rubbish and you know it :p. Of cause money makes you happy, you just gotta know where to spend it :D .

[Nina]

If you have a few million, I'd believe it. Otherwise, no.

[SplinterByMyOwnDesign]

If you have a few million, I'd believe it. Otherwise, no.

Do you think Bill Gates is happy? :confused:

[Tigger Army]

Do you think Bill Gates is happy? :confused:

let's see.. does what he likes best. is multibilionair... could get quite a few women thanks to his large fortune... uhm... YES!

[H1T_That]

let's see.. does what he likes best. is multibilionair... could get quite a few women thanks to his large fortune... uhm... YES!

Who says its women that makes him happy?

[Tigger Army]

Who says its women that makes him happy?

I'm sure men like him too. I do!

[H1T_That]

I'm sure men like him too. I do!

In a sexual way, or a money way?

[Tigger Army]

both!

just don't tell my gf ;)

[HeadAroundU]

not even The Offspring?????!!!11

[Whiplash]

Everyone who say's money cant buy happyness, Dosent have any!

[killer_queen]

Money doesn't make anyone happy, I believe. Things you buy with money do that. But absence of it does make people unhappy, that's for sure.

[Tigger Army]

Money doesn't make anyone happy, I believe. Things you buy with money do that. But absence of it does make people unhappy, that's for sure.

so be it not directly money DOES add to happiness

[wheelchairman]

Happiness is contingent on your ability and will to feel happiness. If I had 100 more dollars I would be pleasantly surprised and spend it, but I would probably be just as happy as I am now. if I had a million more or a billion more, I'd live luxuriously, but I control the means to my happiness and that won't change.

[killer_queen]

so be it not directly money DOES add to happiness
Depends on the person, I think. Some people I know have, like, no interests. I don't think money would bring them even a tiny, little happiness.

[Paint_It_Black]

Money greatly improves your chance of being happy. It doesn't guarantee happiness, but close enough. As long as your desires are realistic. Money obviously can't bring a loved one back from the dead, but it can help ensure that a sick family member doesn't die. Money can't make someone truly love you, but it can attract people that might eventually fall in love with you.

If large quantities of money don't make you happy, then I believe you may just be incapable of happiness until you work out some shit in your head. Try being completely broke, unable to work, unable to pay your rent, unable to see a doctor when you're sick, and having no transportation. Try taking away most of the things that the majority of people take for granted. You might find that your priorites change, your ambitions change, and you might find that suddenly happiness is much easier to achieve.

Everyone should go through at least one really hard financial period in their life, preferably early on, because only then can you truly define what happiness is to you. If you're completely broke, severely in debt, and somehow you're still happy, then good for you. But if you're more normal and it makes you miserable, suddenly you realize that just having a reasonable amount of money can make you happy. Just achieving what most people seem to have already can make you happy. It's suddenly so much easier to be a content person.

If you have money and you're not happy, you need to find a way to appreciate what you have. If you still think something is missing, figure out what it is and get it.

[Endymion]

if I had a million more or a billion more, I'd live luxuriously, but I control the means to my happiness and that won't change.

you sure? for that kind of money you could get tizz a boob job.

[Preocupado]

Pay for therapy.

[Rilex]

Hey, I’m just saying, where’s more money, there’s more pressure...
And I just hate that!!!!

[Camilamazed]

Well, it used to be a problem for me. NI try now to live with the money I have got and I'm happier than I've never been because I found out I can have fun even without money. The fact is, people can only be happy if they want to. I know lots of people who have the money but are afraid of spending it. So, while I'm having the* fun , those people count their bills hehehehe

Fun Wins!


I also second what Per said.

[Betty]

Yesterday I received an exorbitant amount of money after being fairly broke the entire summer and I was incredibly happy for the rest of the day. The relief that comes with knowing that I will be financially secure for the next year was huge.

However, over the years, especially this past year, I have really learned how to be happy with myself, money is just another thing that has the ability to boost my already good mood.

[Endymion]

I have really learned how to be happy with myself

masturbation?

[Betty]

Well, when I first became single, I totally fell in love with the new found liberty to get myself off efficiently whenever I so desired in a matter of minutes. Not that I couldn't before, but it wasn't always as appropriate with a boy waiting down the hall. Now that novelty has kinda worn off.

But masturbation aside, people that are depressed ALL THE TIME (occasionally is okay) are such a downer and I try and be a good supportive friend, but I totally don't have the patience. Take your life into your own hands. Improve yourself. DO things that you enjoy. Go out and MEET people. Work hard. Cheer the hell up.

[Nina]

Thats a very ignorant way of seeing it.
In my opinion its always okay to say you dont like/want to deal with it (so no criticism on that), but saying OMG DO SOMETHING ALREADY doesnt do the trick in most cases (of REAL depression).

[Jebus]

Money just makes people momentarily happy because once they buy something, there will always be something else to want. Once they buy that second item, there's going to be a third and the cycle will continue forever. It's human nature.

There's different types of happiness and each type fulfills different needs of a person so it's kind of hard to simply say "I'm happy." I could be happy in one area and not in another. I could be socially happy having great relationships with friends and family but being unhappy in other areas. Things like drugs, food, sex, and money does make people happy but happy in a different sense. Those things do fulfill a person's "wants," but only those that are temporary. Things like family and friends make you happy, but in an "entire picture" kind of that's always with you, unlike the high of a drug that's only temporary.

so yeah...I think it's pretty stupid to just generalize being happy.

[RickyCrack]

I would take a man-shot in the mouth for a good sum of money.

[Endymion]

a good sum of money.

care to put a dollar value on that?

[RickyCrack]

care to put a dollar value on that?

For you; I'd pay you money to unload between my lips.

[Andy]

Nothing makes me happier than having money. I'm such a capitalist whore.

[Betty]

Thats a very ignorant way of seeing it.
In my opinion its always okay to say you dont like/want to deal with it (so no criticism on that), but saying OMG DO SOMETHING ALREADY doesnt do the trick in most cases (of REAL depression).

Which is why I say I have a hard time being patient with it. Because I don't understand why people CAN'T take steps to get better. Because I have never experienced it. Sure it may be ignorant, but I can't understand something I've never had to deal with, and that makes it much, much harder to sympathize. Those things I said are what I think in my mind, not necessarily what I say out loud, because I realize that's probably not going to help, but I don't understand why people can't just do that. I'm a terrible, terrible person, yadda yadda. Funnily enough, I have tons of friends that come to me for advice or for somebody to talk to when they're having problems because (a) I'm an amazing listener and (b) at least I'd like to think that people appreciate the tough love optimistic realistic advice I do give and not necessarily the standard response they might get from others.

I do have some experience dealing with it... my best friend since forever has, I'd say, not been truly happy with her life since as far back as elementary school. She's not clinically depressed I don't think, but she's definitely far from happy, and at times has sunk pretty low. And she keeps thinking that she just has to wait for some outside source (a job, a boyfriend, a car, friends) to make her happy but I think the root of the problem is that she has to be happy with herself. That's totally a cliched thing to say, but it's true. AND to be happy with yourself, you have to take steps to get there. You can't just sit at home waiting for something to happen. You have to decide what you want, and DO IT. And she hasn't done that. So in a way I think I'm justified in telling her to get up and do something about it, because I think she has every ability to do so and I think she will be much happier for it.

Also, I have not always been happy with myself, mostly socially. I'm still not entirely satisfied, and was particularly unsatisfied after a recent experience. But I've come to terms with my flaws and am working on improving the things I CAN improve, and finding ways around the things I CAN'T improve. Because I've realized that to get what I want and be happy, those are the steps I need to take. I'll admit it's easier said than done, but it is definitely doable and you just have to force yourself to do it. Also, it is incredibly fulfilling to know that I am improving myself and becoming a better person, just in itself, before experiencing the actual results.

So, ignorant? Maybe. But I don't like to be seen as ignorant without giving some grounds for it.

[Tigger Army]

Which is why I say I have a hard time being patient with it. Because I don't understand why people CAN'T take steps to get better. Because I have never experienced it. Sure it may be ignorant, but I can't understand something I've never had to deal with, and that makes it much, much harder to sympathize.

So you can't sympathize with someone who was raped or who's best friend got raped and then slized up (Cause I'm pretty sure you haven't experienced either of those) and then gets depressed for it?

Granted in this case that's probably not what caused the depression in the first place but that IS kind of what you're stating.

[HeadAroundU]

Tigger Army, heh, being raped? WTF? You are way off. But maybe I'm tired. OK good night to all!

[Tigger Army]

I was talking about the statement: 'but I can't understand something I've never had to deal with, and that makes it much, much harder to sympathize.'

I should've quoted less though.

anyway I don't think that you have to experience stuff to be able to sympathize with something.

[ninthlayer]

Money isn't supposed to buy happiness, it's supposed to pay off the obiligations that make a person distressed. But Rilex is a goth and doesn't live in the real world, so they don't really understand the concept of responsibility.

[Tigger Army]

Money isn't supposed to buy happiness, it's supposed to pay off the obiligations that make a person distressed. But Rilex is a goth and doesn't live in the real world, so they don't really understand the concept of responsibility.

are you sure she's a goth or did you think she's one because of the avatar she uses?

blah goths... most confuse gothic metal and actual gothic music these days.

[RickyCrack]

Goth is gay any way you look at it.

[ninthlayer]

the cat screams
manic dreams

blood lust
pudding crust

silence...silence
SURROUND!
SURROUND!
DOLBY 5.1 SURROUND SOUND!
silence...
death.
i am dead.

[Tigger Army]

I didn't know you were a poet

[ninthlayer]

I'm not, Rodriguez is.

[Tigger Army]

blah and now I notice her undersign... okay the goth call seems justified

[Betty]

So you can't sympathize with someone who was raped or who's best friend got raped and then slized up (Cause I'm pretty sure you haven't experienced either of those) and then gets depressed for it?


That's a good question, and you know what? I probably wouldn't be able to fully sympathize. I'd like to think that if I got raped, I'd be able to deal with it fairly well mentally so... if I knew somebody that was absolutely traumatized by it, I don't think I WOULD be able to sympathize as well as I should. "So you got raped, big deal." (Just kidding! ... mostly.)

But even things that I have experienced, I deal with differently. Take death for example. I've never lost a best friend or parent or something so I don't know how I would deal with that but I've had all of my grandparents die in the past few years and wasn't particularly affected besides a slight sadness. And again, I'd like to think that even if I lost somebody REALLY close, I'd be able to deal relatively well. I'm just not a very emotional person.

[Jebus]

Betty needs a RAM upgrade.

[Endymion]

http://f00kie.com/pics/you-gonna-get-raped.jpg

[Preocupado]

Jesus Christ

[Mota Boy]

I was about to reply to this topic, but apparently now it's about rape.

[Jojan]

Money never made me happy.

[Paint_It_Black]

Money never made me happy.

But at least you bought yourself a fine pair of tits. There ain't no way I'm believing those bad boys are natural.

[Tigger Army]

let me see, let me see, let me see!

[Nina]

And she keeps thinking that she just has to wait for some outside source (a job, a boyfriend, a car, friends) to make her happy but I think the root of the problem is that she has to be happy with herself. That's totally a cliched thing to say, but it's true.

Waiting for something to happen is hardly ever a good thing, and I agree that if all a friend does is wait, then you should tell them to get up and do something. But I consider having such an attitude always and forwards everyone who is depressed harsh and inconsiderate. Maybe it is "logical" to tell them to do something, but it's far from what every human being needs in every situation (again, in SOME situation it is appropriate [see above], but definitely not always).
I am replying because I didnt want to ignore your post and come off as rude, but at the end you said yourself that you just arent an emotional person, anyway. I myself cant relate but I understand it.

[Tigger Army]

Waiting for something to happen is hardly ever a good thing, and I agree that if all a friend does is wait, then you should tell them to get up and do something.

Rather than saying they should do something you should help them to find things they could do. Give (decent) alternatives and try to actively help them out instead of just saying: go do something

[Paint_It_Black]

let me see, let me see, let me see!

http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25109&highlight=jojans+boobs

http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25269&highlight=jojans+boobs

Somewhere someone can probably supply you with the topless pic of Jojan that started it all, but it doesn't seem to exist anymore in the initial thread it appeared in.

[Betty]

Rather than saying they should do something you should help them to find things they could do. Give (decent) alternatives and try to actively help them out instead of just saying: go do something

Good point. And I do, trust me. I am a suggestion machine... the only problem is that I know what works for me... and that won't necessarily work for everyone else... but at least it's something to try.

And Nina, yes, I think I do have some tact with dealing with emotionally distressed people. I'm just saying that the frustration I feel in my mind regarding their seemingly helpless state is not always equivalent to the hopefully compassionate things I say or do in response.

[Tigger Army]

http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25109&highlight=jojans+boobs

http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25269&highlight=jojans+boobs

Somewhere someone can probably supply you with the topless pic of Jojan that started it all, but it doesn't seem to exist anymore in the initial thread it appeared in.

Wow, that's hot! Thanks

@Betty, your alternatives might not work for someone else but it can be a step into figuring out something that could work for the person in trouble. You could just sit down together and think of alternatives together. Ofcourse the receiving end has to be at least somewhat open to that.

[Duskygrin]

Happiness only comes to those who least need it.

[ShadowPyro]

Money doesn’t give me happiness but it helps. Im very happy with my life for now. I went to school in the morning, then had cross country running practice or a race. I then came home, finished my assignments from school, studied Polish [I can speak it pretty fluently. As in everyone I met in Poland understood me. It was my first language, and I have not really studied it much, so everything I know came naturally. I was never taught to read it, but now I can read just a little.] (and possibly I will be studying German soon to) , played World of Warcraft, then go running with my friend from down the street to keep in shape. That was my life from Monday to Thursday. On Friday I would finish school, have cross country and then go to a friends or a friend came to my house. Friday occasionly hosted a school dance also. On almost all the Saturdays of last year, I had a friends Bar Mitzvah or Bat Mitzvah. Sunday I would sleep in, do my weekend school assignments and probably hang out with a friend or play World of Warcraft, also with a friend who lives in the same town as me. That was my life last year. I was very happy with it. This year looks much the same, except there will be more homework assignments.

Now, money is not what made me happy. But if I didn’t have money I would not be able to buy my friends their Bar Mitzvah gifts. That would make me feel guilty. Also, I would not be able to play World of Warcraft. As im not allowed to hang out with friends during the week, that would leave me very bored. Oh, and I also greatly enjoy reading. Reading brings me happiness, and I like to read the same book several times. I would not be able buy the books if I didn’t have money.


Happiness only comes to those who least need it.

Bullshit. One of my best friends had leukemia. When his treatment was all over, and the doctor informed us that Ian would be alright, we were all very happy. Including his immediate family. His parents who thought they were going to lose him. You think they needed it least? Jesus Christ. I have avoided jumping on the “lets bash Maria” bandwagon so far, aside from voting yes on the stupid cunt poll, but between this and the “Pluto is an Asteroid” crap, im finding that rather hard now.

[Duskygrin]

there's a diff between relief & happiness. what those ppl felt was deep relief in contrast to their previous devastation.

[ShadowPyro]

there's a diff between relief & happiness. what those ppl felt was deep relief in contrast to their previous devastation.

It was more then relief. It was relief and heartfelt happiness. Pure joy.

[Duskygrin]

*shrugs* get lost

[the_GoDdEsS]

How do you know what emotions other people feel? Oh right, you know everything.

[ShadowPyro]

*shrugs* get lost

Why do you have it beaten into your thick skull that you are superior to everyone?

[the_GoDdEsS]

Because her teacher xeroxed her essays, duh!

[Duskygrin]

frankly, when I look at your sig, not a single moment do I feel the need to answer your question properly.

[ShadowPyro]

frankly, when I look at your sig, not a single moment do I feel the need to answer your question properly.

That was before i had bashed you a single time. Those two quotes literally made me laugh out loud. That’s why they are there. If you don't want to answer my previous question, ok. I meant it as more of a rhetorical question anyway.

Happiness only comes to those who least need it.

Now please answer me this: How does/Why does happiness, according to you, come only to those who need it least.

[Duskygrin]

I don't know, you tell me about feeling joy for your friend when he was out of danger, & then you laugh at sb's saying he'd love to kick me. sounds hokey at best. I'm sickened.

you're lucky I'm listening to "love don't let me go" by Guetta otherwise I wouldn't even reply.

I just meant that when you strive too much to attain happiness, it forever eludes you. But when you just accept fate, then yeah, there's a chance you might feel it. Since you tell me that it was indeed happiness you felt, not sheer relief (& I take your word for it, I just wished to make sure in an indirect way, don't ever forget that I'm french, I can't talk like a yankee or a limey), it clinches with my statement. I see no contradiction. if he had died I've no doubt you'd have been as equally crushed as you were happy when it turned out alright. but I see no contradiction with my statement, even though you may have prayed long & hard for his recovery.

now back off your sig disgusts me. you're laughing at me, & you want me to answer you nicely? you show your scorn, & pretend that I'm the one who feels superior? yeah, get lost.

[JoY]

happiness is a state of being. one can't possibly know what ultimate happiness is, but can only know when he/she is in a happy state. it's a personal emotion that everyone experiences differently & that can't be compared to anyone else's happiness. there's a huge difference in what can make one happy & what can make the other happy. criteria for what can induce happiness are different for everyone. the state happiness is mostly hormone-induced, which means theoretically it's possible you become insensitive for it. this way criteria to become happy can change overtime.

it's impossible to say happiness comes to the ones who least need it. when you need happiness, that'd mean you're unhappy & of course it's well possible to be unhappy before & gain happiness. better yet, criteria to become happy possibly shift when one is unhappy, so he/she can gain happiness from smaller things.

when you least need happiness, that'd mean you're happy already. in this case, when happiness would only come to these people, you'd be talking about a continuous state of happiness, which rarely to never exists (also in this case criteria to become happy can shift, but to the other side). & when it would, I don't see why people in a continuous state of happiness wouldn't need happiness. because everyone does to a certain degree.

[ShadowPyro]

now back off your sig disgusts me. you're laughing at me, & you want me to answer you nicely? you show your scorn, & pretend that I'm the one who feels superior? yeah, get lost.

First: I’m not laughing at you. Second: I’m not asking you to answer me nicely. By all means, answer as rudely as you want. But answer the questions.(There are no questions this time.) Third: I’m not showing scorn. Fourth: If what is in my sig had been said about anyone else, I still would have sigged it. I sigged it cause its funny. It shouldn’t offend you, the way being called a frog shouldn’t offend you. The way being called a Filthy Slav doesn’t offend me. The way The Goddess’s “Filthy Slavs Inc.” caption doesn’t offend me or anyone here who is of the Slavic race.

I just meant that when you strive too much to attain happiness, it forever eludes you. But when you just accept fate, then yeah, there's a chance you might feel it.

That has absolutely nothing to do with happiness coming to only those who need it least*. According to your above quoted statement, happiness only comes to those who do not “Strive to attain happiness.”….

Happiness only comes to those who least need it.

…. And then your previous statement says that happiness only comes to those that don’t need it. Just because someone strives to attain happiness doesn’t mean they don’t need happiness.

EDIT:I mistakingly put most instead of least*.

[Duskygrin]

okay now you just proved you're a genuine idiot who won't or can't read properly, & second, I'm the only judge as to what may or may not offend me.

sayonara

[JoY]

you still never explained your statement, or why he'd be a genuine idiot who won't/can't read properly.

when you said it's possible to gain happiness when accepting your fate, you basically contradicted your statement that happiness comes to who least need it. & I still don't see how there can be a person, or a group of people, who least need happiness. as I said, everyone does to their own personal degree.

maybe you meant that people, who search for it, need it & that their greed for happiness will never make their search successful, because they possibly won't ever be satisfied & therefore will end up being disappointed. & that there are people who could get by perfectly without happiness, not needing it, which attitude would make them happy in itself. but even then that's also an attitude only maintained to gain happiness.

[Duskygrin]

Just because someone strives to attain happiness doesn’t mean they don’t need happiness.

I beg to differ.

My statement was an aphorism. Aphorisms sometimes reduce meaning to a bare approximation. Yet I explained at length already.

Anyhow, my kindness amazes me. I'll be telegraphic.

"to those who least need it" = "to those who least strive to get it"

where's the contradiction? It's an APPROXIMATION because it's an APHORISM designed to say in as few words as possible what you would in a whole paragraph. That's all. You're more boring than an unopenable phial of poppers.

[ShadowPyro]

you still never explained your statement, or why he'd be a genuine idiot who won't/can't read properly.

Im just going to think i didnt prove myself an idiot who cant read correctly.

[Duskygrin]

too bad, coz you are.

goddamn you managed to make me laugh. Now I just need an idea as to how to pry that lid open. I hate phials. They're lovely but not convenient.

[JoY]

it's not just understandable, but reasonable & logical to read your statement; "those who least need it" as those who are happy already. those who need it would be the ones who are currently unhappy.

but I take it my last paragraph of my last post explained what you tried to say?

[Duskygrin]

yes your last paragraph was more or less what I was saying...

those who least need it certainly doesn't mean those who're already happy, obviously. Who ever would think that?

[JoY]

at first I did. people who don't need money, have it, right? but you can be rich in more than one way. if you don't need money to be happy, you're rich in another way, than having plenty of it. you meant it in a way that people need it & won't find it, when happiness functions to fill an empty void.

but not needing happiness to be happy still doesn't work in the same way. happiness always fills the void of lack of happiness. happiness by definition is the result of filling the void of a state in which you lack happiness. it's the endresult of a search for happiness, not the means/faith/persons/et cetera you try to get it by.

as I said, the ones who don't look for happiness maintain that attitude, because that's exactly what gains them happiness. hell, they need it. that's why they don't look for it in things I described. so not needing happiness isn't what makes you happy. it's the fact you don't search for it in all the wrong places & therefore don't end up disappointed & unsatisfied. & not searching happiness to be happy is in that way just as much a search for happiness. why? because everyone needs it.

[Duskygrin]

at first I did.

My condolences.

people who don't need money, have it, right?

Not necessarily. It's not a given at all. It all depends on your needs. Some rich ppl (& what does it mean to be rich in such a relative world?) need forever more.

but you can be rich in more than one way.

most certainly you can.

if you don't need money to be happy, you're rich in another way, than having plenty of it. you meant it in a way that people need it & won't find it, when happiness functions to fill an empty void.

not so quick, butterfly... you put words in my mouth, words which never escaped my lips...

but not needing happiness to be happy still doesn't work in the same way. happiness always fills the void of lack of happiness. happiness by definition is the result of filling the void of a state in which you lack happiness. it's the endresult of a search for happiness, not the means/faith/persons/et cetera you try to get it by.

ah, the quest for happiness. we're at it. You would imply that we merely feel the presence of the absence of happiness.To me, happiness is not joy. Happiness is this state when you are so filled with bliss you don't need anything any more. You don't desire anymore. Nobody reaches happiness, because nobody can stop desiring. Desire is the essence of man. Likewise, those who least need happiness are those who least desire it.

as I said, the ones who don't look for happiness maintain that attitude, because that's exactly what gains them happiness. hell, they need it. that's why they don't look for it in things I described. so not needing happiness isn't what makes you happy. it's the fact you don't search for it in all the wrong places & therefore don't end up disappointed & unsatisfied. & not searching happiness to be happy is in that way just as much a search for happiness. why? because everyone needs it.

In relation to the bolded part, how in the world can you think for one second that there existed so blessed a man that he could truly say: "I am truly happy."?

Firstly, true happiness can never be reached. You can reach a state of contentment, you can grasp some transient magic powder that will exalt your self, but happiness... is by nature unattainable (though not unassailable...). you know the saying "count no man happy until he's dead?" it merely means that, even after shadowpyro experienced joy at his friend's recovery, sth terrible may yet happen.

Secondly, nothing precludes happiness so much as happy memories. Dwelling on the past... may deject you, when what you endeavour to reach is dead & gone.

Thirdly & lastly, happiness doesn't perforce fill a void, it may be the slow alchemy of time that transforms un unhappy combination of circumstances into sth more pleasurable. But pleasure & happiness don't have to go together either, & I won't enter into further considerations because I'm a tedious jerk & not eloquent at all when I explain at length the whys & wherefores of my little philosophy which noone on the board has any desire to buy. Besides, I'm starved.

[JoY]

happiness isn't black, or white. as, you don't have it, or you do. it works with a scale, like almost anything & certainly everything that's hormone induced.

"Nobody reaches happiness, because nobody can stop desiring. Desire is the essence of man. Likewise, those who least need happiness are those who least desire it."

in this case you're implying; everyone needs it, but no one gets it.

the problem with this discussion is, that we don't agree on the exact definition of happiness. we know perfectly well of each other what we mean, but the meaning of happiness isn't the same for the both of us. that makes our discussion more of a linguistic philosophical nature (the word & concept of "happiness" always is) & it's impossible to be right, or wrong. it's only possible to agree, or disagree. I disagree with you, but let's settle with it, lean back & know we at least understand each other.

at this very moment I can't say I'm experiencing pleasure (I'm sick, have too much to do, you name it), but according to my definition of happiness I'm damn sure I'm happy. =)

[ShadowPyro]

I beg to differ.

My statement was an aphorism. Aphorisms sometimes reduce meaning to a bare approximation. Yet I explained at length already.

Anyhow, my kindness amazes me. I'll be telegraphic.

"to those who least need it" = "to those who least strive to get it"

where's the contradiction? It's an APPROXIMATION because it's an APHORISM designed to say in as few words as possible what you would in a whole paragraph. That's all. You're more boring than an unopenable phial of poppers.

I somehow missed this post earlier. Anyway, thank you for the above quoted post. Everything is you’ve been saying is much clearer to me now. If I might make one small suggestion… I would recommend you use slightly simpler language. Not much simpler, but just a little.

[Duskygrin]

I somehow missed this post earlier. Anyway, thank you for the above quoted post. Everything is you’ve been saying is much clearer to me now. If I might make one small suggestion… I would recommend you use slightly simpler language. Not much simpler, but just a little.


it's a deal. & have a nice day. a happy day.