New Drummer

[nevo]

(07/27/07) Pete Parada has been chosen to be The Offspring‘s new drummer. The band‘s first shows with Pete will be at the Summer Sonic festival in Japan this August. Pete is a killer drummer and has spent time in Saves The Day, Face to Face, and Alkaline Trio.

In the meantime, The Offspring are continuing to put the finishing touches on a new album, no release date yet. Josh Freese (NIN, Vandals, Devo) has recorded all the drum tracks for the new record.

Atom Willard is now focusing full time on his band, Angels & Airwaves, and remains a friend of the band.


Can't say I didn't see that one comming.

[[@M3R0N]

haha yah, im glad they got a new drummer, i wasnt a huge atom fan, but supposedly pete is pretty damn good

[nevo]

haha yah, im glad they got a new drummer, i wasnt a huge atom fan, but supposedly pete is pretty damn good

He's hax. I hope he sticks around with the band for good. :]

[DeAtHsTaR]

He's played for Engine, Face to Face, Saves the Day, Jackson United, and has toured with Alkaline Trio. Haha, Atom toured with Alk3 too.

[MasoN]

Holly shit, i wasnt expecting that at all. I kinda liked Atom, but i guess he did not feel completely comfortable here. Who knows. The only thing that kinda upsets me is that there is no release date yet. Hope the album will come out this year.

[SaiKYoU]

fuck, i like this...

for real, i like this...

[Lord_Gabo]

GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

[H1T_That]

Hmmmmmmmm. Not sure if this is good or bad news yet...

[curuja]

Well.. i liked Atom too.. but Pete looks to be fucking great too.. lets wait and see if he stays with the band longer than a album...

[nieh]

More Josh Freese is always good.

[Stranger With Candy]

This was a suprice! I relly hoped to hear Atom on the new album.

[Marco]

I truly had a "What-the-fuck" expression when I saw the news section...seen youtube videos of him...seems pretty cool drummer!
Now I really can't wait for a bootleg of SummerSonic!

[Powerh]

Josh Freese on the new album again ? mmhh..
sounds like it will be SPLINTER 2.

[DeAtHsTaR]

Josh Freese on the new album again ? mmhh..
sounds like it will be SPLINTER 2.

Did your parents ever drop you on your head?

[sebastienfan]

doesn't matter who plays drum on the album, im pretty sure Dexter tells him what to do anyway.

[DeAtHsTaR]

Check out this video of Pete Parada.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eU8c5SN33Kw

[jacknife737]

Hmm, i have kind of mixed feelings about this. On one hand i really liked Atom, he's probably my favorite drummer, like i've loved his stuff since his Rocket From The Crypt work. But also, i'm glad the band has a permanent drummer, who doesn't seem to have any other major projects... plus he played with Face To Face which is fucking awesome.

Like nevo mentioned, this news is hardly surprising, especially when you realize that both bands will have new albums out within a couple months of each other and it is doubtful that AVA and Offspring would tour together. One thing which i found to be quite surprising was that Freese was once again doing the recording, i was under the impression that Atom was recording the album.

[MasoN]

Superimpose Greg K's face on Noodles's and you get Pete Prada lol:D

[MasoN]

One thing which i found to be quite surprising was that Freese was once again doing the recording, i was under the impression that Atom was recording the album.

That only means that we really have no clue of what is really goin on with the album. I also was thinkin that Atom is recording. Be prepared for more surprises guys!!!

[Mimile]

My heart stops beating.

Impatient to see the summersonic video.

[offspring kid]

Well we had it coming....we lost atom to AVA, well all we can say is "Good luck further Atom". Josh freese yet again eh? Well that guy is just as good as Atom "Drum God2" and i'm pretty sure The offspring have made som pretty sweet sounding tracks with him. This guy Pete parada, never heared of him or of the bands he has worked with besides Alkaline trio. Saw a video of him playing drums at youtube...he's not bad and fits pretty good with the rest of the offspring members, by the looks and by the sound, but still he is no way near Atom.

[Zee]

Exactly, we had it coming... 1+1 is two, you can't be at two places at the same time... interesting.

[endlesst0m]

I assume Atom's dedication has been a problem for quite some time...I wonder how much this has been affecting the songwriting process and finishing the new record.

[BustedKnuckles]

Saweeeeeet. I like Pete. Atom has a good stage presence, but Pete is a damn good drummer. I like the fact that Josh Freese is doing drums again...now that guy is a god.:cool:

[endlesst0m]

If Josh records this one too, than Pete Parada will probably only end up doing one record with them at MOST. I could be wrong, but I doubt Offspring will have many more albums after this new one.

[Marco]

If Josh records this one too, than Pete Parada will probably only end up doing one record with them at MOST. I could be wrong, but I doubt Offspring will have many more albums after this new one.
I really really really hope they don't retire!

[nieh]

I assume Atom's dedication has been a problem for quite some time...I wonder how much this has been affecting the songwriting process and finishing the new record.

Probably not at all. Dex writes all the parts of every song himself, that's why Ron left.

[endlesst0m]

\Dex writes all the parts of every song himself, that's why Ron left.

True, but an important part of writing a song is hearing it with drums, even if you've already written most of the parts on guitar. That's why it's pretty important to have a drummer at practices. I guess they could've just got some random other guy to jam with just to see how stuff sounded with drums though...

[Zee]

Probably not at all. Dex writes all the parts of every song himself, that's why Ron left.

Yeah, but there's probably a lot of things to do and drive in a new member for the band, a world tour to follow you know... fit the schedules for Pete's calendar... when at the same time you are supposed to write new songs and record them.

[Peedr]

Awww....I totally didn't expected that! I liked Atom a lot, but now, I'm happy that The Offspring have a full-time drummer - finally. Furthermore, Pete Parada seems to be solid drummer. Actually, I'm surprised about Josh recording drumtracks for the new album, I'd rather have them recorded by the full-time drummer....

[endlesst0m]

Side question: Did Atom ever record anything with The Offspring? Didn't he record the drums for Next to You?

[sebastienfan]

its the only song he recorded with the offspring, I remember a guy asking that question to Dexter at the warped tour and thats what he said.

[sebastienfan]

when ron left the band I knew that this was going to happen, hire couple more drummers until the band retire. it sucks for pete and sucked to for atom to get in the band just after a new album coming out so they have to play someone else's songs for years because we know the offspring doesn't release a album every year. it took 4 years since splinter, if we figure next album will coming out this fall, and Im not even sure if they will release another one in 3 or 4 years.

[HeadAroundU]

Josh Freese :eek:

FUCK YES!!!

[Call it an Obsession]

Wow, some real, interesting news for a change. I certainly was not expecting that. In my opinion, it's not gonna change a damn thing ;) .

[nameless]

i wasnt exactly in shock when when i read the bulletin, although i didnt expect it either.

i remember someone posting a thread about atom and the band when they were apparently starting work on the new album. they met him at an angels and airwaves gig and did say that atom had told them josh freese would be working on the next album. its also been quite well documented that atom has been recording with angels and airwaves and their album is due out soon. i dont see why people still thought he was still recording with the offspring?!

it doesnt matter how good or how great you all think this new guy is, he is just going to play exactly the same parts ron welty and josh freese have recorded. atom was the greatest thing to ever happen to that band according to a lot of you when he first joined. now the butt kissing is starting for the new guy as well. everyone labels him as the "permanent" drummer, he will probably just be the touring drummer for the next few years, exactly as atom was. this guy is not going to drastically change anything about the offspring, on the album after next the recording process or song writing wont change no matter who is in the band, its just the way they choose to work!

[nieh]

i dont see why people still thought he was still recording with the offspring?!

Lots of people are able to manage being in multiple bands full time. Josh Freese, for example.

[Leandro]

i wasnt exactly in shock when when i read the bulletin, although i didnt expect it either.

i remember someone posting a thread about atom and the band when they were apparently starting work on the new album. they met him at an angels and airwaves gig and did say that atom had told them josh freese would be working on the next album. its also been quite well documented that atom has been recording with angels and airwaves and their album is due out soon. i dont see why people still thought he was still recording with the offspring?!

it doesnt matter how good or how great you all think this new guy is, he is just going to play exactly the same parts ron welty and josh freese have recorded. atom was the greatest thing to ever happen to that band according to a lot of you when he first joined. now the butt kissing is starting for the new guy as well. everyone labels him as the "permanent" drummer, he will probably just be the touring drummer for the next few years, exactly as atom was. this guy is not going to drastically change anything about the offspring, on the album after next the recording process or song writing wont change no matter who is in the band, its just the way they choose to work!


I agree with you...
Good luck to Pete!
http://www.vater.com/artists/images/peteparada.jpg

[Amiralanal]

Fuck. I dont know how to react. I am sad and confused at the same time.

[Mimile]

http://www.ericstenman.com/petesaves.jpg

Www.myspace.com/peteparada

Wait & See...

[DexterWannabe]

he feels nerdy, not punk

[DeAtHsTaR]

He played with Rob Halford? Shit, he must be pretty good.

[DeAtHsTaR]

he feels nerdy, not punk

And Atom didn't seem nerdy?

And Dexter's Master's Degree in Molecular Biology isn't nerdy? Or his being the Valedictorian of his high school class? Or being in Math Club during high school?

And Greg K's Bachelor's Degree in Finance isn't nerdy? Or his being in Math Club with Dexter?

And Ron Welty's Bachelor's Degree in Electronics isn't nerdy?

[Leandro]

some videos: http://web.mac.com/peteparada/iWeb/Site/Videos/Videos.html

[Ninty Man]

WOW... I must say this:

That the thing I've listen about the youtube video (and see, btw)... he's a pretty solid drummer, but I'm dissapointed he only has two toms... dammit... but even Bobby schayer has two toms and he did good things after all...

Hope this guy can play good and fit in the band

[endlesst0m]

WOW... I must say this:

That the thing I've listen about the youtube video (and see, btw)... he's a pretty solid drummer, but I'm dissapointed he only has two toms... dammit... but even Bobby schayer has two toms and he did good things after all...

Hope this guy can play good and fit in the band

Yeah.And I hate that law that says once you play in a video with only two toms, you can't ever play with any more in a different band.

[zacsta]

damit we have to wait till the NEXT album to actually have a new official drummer recording the drums.

[Ninty Man]

Yeah.And I hate that law that says once you play in a video with only two toms, you can't ever play with any more in a different band.

If that was sarcasm, you fail :P

You don't get my point, and you won't

[Lord_Gabo]

If Josh records this one too, than Pete Parada will probably only end up doing one record with them at MOST. I could be wrong, but I doubt Offspring will have many more albums after this new one.

Shut up! :mad:

[endlesst0m]

If that was sarcasm, you fail :P

You don't get my point, and you won't

No, it wasn't sarcasm. There really is a law. Don't you watch the news?

[SplinterByMyOwnDesign]

I'm actually really disapointed. And hate Tom DeLonge about 100 times more now.

Atom brang such energy back into the band, Pete doesn't seem as full on as Atom... I'd rather Offspring got Ron back, or kept Josh Freesh.

But this means Pete has left Jackson United. A band that Chris Shiflett (lead guitarist of Foo Fighters) had started. They're a pretty cool band, I listen to them. And he sounds like a good drummer, but I don't know if he seems very Offspring material. I guess we'll see.

I had a feeling Josh would be doing drums again, a few days ago I read an article about how Lost Prophets wanted to get Travis Barker to play drums on one of their tracks, but Bob Rock was the producer and had worked with Josh Freese before that, so Bob brang in Josh instead of Travis. So maybe Bob has something to do with this?

[Zee]

As I own drums too it'll be fun to hear professional or less professional live clips now, Atom added his own little stuff every now and then, you can easily hear from live stuff whether it was Ron or Atom drumming, they were different styles... wonder how Pete will do. I guess we will find out. :p

Oh, and this guy announced on March 28th that he has decided to left his band Saves The Day, so it has been clear quite some time that he's in The Offspring.

[drex878]

Well, I'm hella confused right now.

[Ninty Man]

As I own drums too it'll be fun to hear professional or less professional live clips now, Atom added his own little stuff every now and then, you can easily hear from live stuff whether it was Ron or Atom drumming, they were different styles... wonder how Pete will do. I guess we will find out. :p

Oh, and this guy announced on March 28th that he has decided to left his band Saves The Day, so it has been clear quite some time that he's in The Offspring.


MMM... well... actually... the only different things I've heard in Atom and ron, are in Have you ever, long way home (atom adds more fillings), and the intro of TKAA... but not really that change, you know?

[Autonomist]

In the meantime, The Offspring are continuing to put the finishing touches on a new album, no release date yet. Josh Freese (NIN, Vandals, Devo) has recorded all the drum tracks for the new record.

I like that they're referring to it as that now. It makes me hopeful.

[leo3375]

I'm surprised and not surprised by this news. It will be interesting to see how well Pete meshes with the other guys and how it will affect their live sound and onstage chemistry.

And as totally kick-ass as it would be to see Josh touring with the Offspring, I seriously doubt that's gonna happen anytime in the near future. Between his studio commitments and touring with NIN he's very, very busy.

I wish Atom the best of luck with his future ventures.

[Thomas]

Well, he definitely seems much closer to Welty's technique than Freese or Willard, which I consider a big plus. And I'd hate to admit it, but I think he might be the best drummer The Offspring have had (with the exception of Josh Freese). He seems to have that sort of vibe that everyone else in The Offspring has (maybe he's a bit more serious, though) so I think he will fit well. I'm expecting great things from him.

[offspringer24]

whose the anal that said they think josh is just as good as atom? what an idiot, josh is widely regarded as one of the worlds finest drummers! i know for a fact if the offspring had the chance he would be there full time drummer but he just helps out the band like dexter helps out the vandals etc

atom as good as josh lmao

[RobinoZombie]

atom brought so much energy and he hit so damn hard. i like atom, atom liked long way home, atleast he told me, or wrote on asetlist.

Ron is always ron, the new drummer ive never heard of


So whats next on how too survive as the next spinal tap?

[Offspring-Junkie]

Why is everyone making so much noise about drummers? Hey, they're drummers! They don't change very much about the sound of a band. You know how many drummers the bloodhound gang already had? I dunno. Besides: Atom was always with AVA, so I don't have a problem to see him leaving The Offspring. And....did he record "Can't repeat" with The Offspring or was that another drummer either?
Nieh: Do you know Ron left the band because Dexter made everything, or do you assume it? Who said or wrote that?

[DefaultNinja]

I'm actually really disapointed. And hate Tom DeLonge about 100 times more now.


I thought I was the only one who felt this way. But no need to go into it.

I guess I got faith in Pete, but I can't pretend not to be dissapointed in the album being fucked around by this drummer business. It's just bad timing that AVA want to release an album the same rough time as The Offspring.

Ah well, only 2 weeks 'til SummerSonic..

[Zee]

MMM... well... actually... the only different things I've heard in Atom and ron, are in Have you ever, long way home (atom adds more fillings), and the intro of TKAA... but not really that change, you know?


I think he tricked more with hi-hat than Ron, played some of the fills somewhat differently, and for example Self Esteem was probably the most differently played than Ron. Ron sticked more to the album versions and did it exactly the same while Atom alwayd didn't.

[Little_Miss_1565]

I guess I got faith in Pete, but I can't pretend not to be dissapointed in the album being fucked around by this drummer business. It's just bad timing that AVA want to release an album the same rough time as The Offspring.

Come on. You can't go around blaming Tom DeLonge for the album taking awhile. Josh Freese has been doing the drum tracks, after all--nothing to do with AVA or Tom or anyone of the sort. The album is taking awhile just because it is taking awhile. So...cut it out.

[nieh]

Nieh: Do you know Ron left the band because Dexter made everything, or do you assume it? Who said or wrote that?

Ron has mentioned since leaving that he wanted to have more say in the creative process and that "offspring is Dexter's band and always has been". You can find some of that stuff over at the Steady Ground forum though I couldn't tell you which posts.

edit: that's also probably a pretty big reason why Atom left. He mentioned in the past how much he liked being in AVA because he got to write all the drum parts himself.

[mrconeman]

Sweet, the Offspring are going to have a member with some level of technical skill.
To be honest I think Dexter needs to change his ways and let other people contribute, no band member is going to be happy without at least some creative freedom.

[Biggest offspring fan]

http://a599.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/l_a5a8443bab726a5613178a947255bdde.jpg

[Superdope]

Atoms departure saddens me...such energy he had on stage... however I wish him the best of luck with AVA. As for Pete, the new drummer, well... summersonic can't come soon enough!

[Aisha_n]

http://ok-offspring.way-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/28/20070728_03.jpghttp://ok-offspring.way-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/28/20070728_04.jpg

How old is he?

[rlplaymaker]

Why doesn't Josh just join the band? I mean, hes been working with them for quite a long time.

[nieh]

He's only been acting as a studio drummer (which is his day job aside from already being a permanent member in like 3-4 other bands), not doing live shows or anything. They said around the Splinter time that they thought it would be nice if he were able to join but he's too busy.

[Biggest offspring fan]

Why doesn't Josh just join the band? I mean, hes been working with them for quite a long time.

He has been asked, but he don't want that. He is playing in The Vandals, offspring asked him to join them but he said that he had other plans.

[bouncingcoles]

i wish they would just have josh freese play for them but he is far to busy with nine inch nails and his other projects.

[German Andres]

Yeah I think the same. Josh is a great drummer, far better than Ron was, and I think that, far beyond what people think about Splinter, one of the positives things about Splinter is the drumming. Of course this is only my opinion and I don`t intend to start debating about Splinter or Ron`s ability (which I think he hadn`t)

[Jack-UK]

The drumming in splinter was excellent i thought.

Anyway, i hear this guy is good, i guess we'll see next month...

[Camilamazed]

Well well

I wish Pete Good Luck!!!

:)

PS: Poor Atom. Will have a short life with AVA. Who wants to bet Delong will end the band in an year?

[thecavedog]

Ok, well, Josh Freeze is good right? We all agree on that one. Just hope the new record kicks world ass and the drumming FITS the style. That is my main concern.

Pete Seems good judging by the little I've seen of him. Would be nice if they could get a drummer to record AND tour with them. Or how about a P.E.R.M.A.N.E.N.T. member.

[Short_Attention_Span]

But this means Pete has left Jackson United. A band that Chris Shiflett (lead guitarist of Foo Fighters) had started.

Not necessarily. Are they doing anything right now?

Ron has mentioned since leaving that he wanted to have more say in the creative process and that "offspring is Dexter's band and always has been". You can find some of that stuff over at the Steady Ground forum though I couldn't tell you which posts.

edit: that's also probably a pretty big reason why Atom left. He mentioned in the past how much he liked being in AVA because he got to write all the drum parts himself.

Geez... maybe Dexter should be a little more open about the "creative process" and not be such... a control freak. Heck, even Bad Religion has some sort of veto power and lets the other members in on the songwriting from time to time.

Although, honestly, I can't say I'm surprised. It would be a hell of a schedule to keep up with to tour with AVA and the Offspring simultaneously. As far as the new drummer goes, he seems like a good choice for a permanent drummer. This album should be interesting.

[German Andres]

Not necessarily. Are they doing anything right now?


Geez... maybe Dexter should be a little more open about the "creative process" and not be such... a control freak. Heck, even Bad Religion has some sort of veto power and lets the other members in on the songwriting from time to time.

Although, honestly, I can't say I'm surprised. It would be a hell of a schedule to keep up with to tour with AVA and the Offspring simultaneously. As far as the new drummer goes, he seems like a good choice for a permanent drummer. This album should be interesting.


Agree with that. I am listening to some Face to Face, Saves the Day (which are bands that had Pete as their drummer for a while) and I have to say that he is very good, I like his style. Very interesting stuff

[RonWelty]

dexter, why don´t you call Ron Welty again... i want a steady formation ... anyway i´m still here waiting for Parada and ready to clap his future awsome performances!

[im da hui]

FUCK U!!! this is the 1st sign of the apocolips!!we're all doomed!!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

[DexterWannabe]

jeez... kindergarden....

anyway, it doesn't matter how good drummer they find, the drumming will always be on dexter's level

[Powerh]

Pete looks like Christian Bale ^^

[nameless]

Lots of people are able to manage being in multiple bands full time. Josh Freese, for example.

my point was that it had been bought up that josh freese was going to be playing at least some part on the new album and that atom was recording with angels and airwaves. i not debating whether people can play in multiple bands, but given what we had been told, it just seemed logical that atom wouldnt have had much to do with the new album.

people have started commenting on how good and technically great this new guy is and how interesting it will be to hear him live. i really get the impression loads of you had never even heard of him before his name was announced as the new offspring drummer. whatever the case, he is just going to play exactly the same thing ron and atom have played.

on the subject of atom live, he never did anything drastically different, he obviously wouldnt learn all the albums exactly as they were recorded, as long as the parts, changes and fills were pretty much there then it would be ok. there has never been an occasion where you thought, "wow, that sounds great now atom has changed that bit" etc!

[leibstandarte109]

Truth be told, I really don't care much about who The Offspring's drummer is. It's going to sound the exact same either way, and generally speaking the drumming is not the band's selling point.

[Gayman]

Never liked Atom THAT much anyway...so....

[ZagmenO]

WOW!!! I cannot believe this at all! I'm just in complete & total shock right now! Atom was my favorite drummer of all time. I wasn't a fan back when Ron was with them, so I didn't know much about him 'til I did get into the Offspring. He is cool, though. But...just wow! I hope this Pete Parada guy is good...:eek:

[leo3375]

Why doesn't Josh just join the band? I mean, hes been working with them for quite a long time.

He's been offered the position and has turned it down. And like I said before, he's touring with NIN the rest of the summer and also has more studio work lined up.

[SplinterByMyOwnDesign]

Not necessarily. Are they doing anything right now?



Well, Chris writes all the songs when he's not too busy with Foo Fighters. But on their myspace (http://www.myspace.com/jacksonunited), he is no longer shown as a member, or is any drummer. So it seems they need a new one.

[F@ BANKZ]

Sweet, I was hoping for Ron to come back but this guy seems cool. Perhaps too cool.

[Zee]

...but this guy seems cool. Perhaps too cool.

For sure. The video on YouTube is just awesome, his style seems to be very good and fit for The Offspring.

[TheOldMark]

to be honest, I expected this. I made a few posts where I raise this concern. It seemed that the low level of updates had something to do with it (tipped me off). and we all knew atom was with a&a, so what would happen if they did a full tour.

atom was cool, im a little disappointed.

but hopefully Pete will be a permanent member of the band, I look forward to catching him on the next US tour.

[Funderful Callan]

Atom is one of my favourite drummers ever! shame he's going. didnt really see him leaving but i knew he wasnt doing much. Pete is a fucking excellent drummer so he should do real good with The Offspring.

[MaF]

Im so suprised...i think they've invented new tradition to change eir druumer every new album....i hope he'll be better! With more charisma....and of course with better skills...;)

[TheOldMark]

Im so suprised...i think they've invented new tradition to change eir druumer every new album....i hope he'll be better! With more charisma....and of course with better skills...;)

i hope and would have to believe that this is their last drummer change. keep in mind, this is their 5th drummer.

[mrconeman]

Pete backwards is Etep.

[Mr.Offspring]

When Ron quit The Offspring in 2003, I hoped that he could come back to the band one day. But Pete Parada looks like a cool guy, and a awsome drummer. But still sad that Atom left.
I became a bit scared when Atom decided to quit. Hope that the rest of the band dont concider to leave.
Hope the new album becomes a killer-album and inspiers the band to continue their great carere.
:cool:

[DexterHollandIsGod]

I was shocked to hear atom was gone, i even ripped my a&a poster up just so you could see him and then he goes :( oh well, i wish him all the best and pete sounds like a kick ass drummer :D :D

[Stranger With Candy]

Pete backwards is Etep.

Thats why i like Atom better. :(

[DexterHollandIsGod]

Oh yeah, atom backwards is mota, ha i only just noticed that! :D :eek: :D

[jacknife737]

It would be nice, if Dexter's next journal entry shed some light over why they selected Parada in particular.

[TheOldMark]

It would be nice, if Dexter's next journal entry shed some light over why they selected Parada in particular.

i agree. i understand why dexter kept it under wraps, but now would be a good time to give us an explanation.

[sebastienfan]

they should have ire this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6n7McwuPV4

[Biggest offspring fan]

I miss Atom, I hope that Pete will kick ass as much as Atom did...

[German Andres]

they should have ire this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6n7McwuPV4


Naa it wouldn`t have worked. He is too damn good to join The offspring.
It doesn`t matter who the drummer is, The Offspring is Dexter Holland`s band jajajaja:D

[drex878]

Whatever, we'll see how Pete does a Summer Sonic. I'm optimistic about him in the band.

[SplinterByMyOwnDesign]

Whatever, we'll see how Pete does a Summer Sonic. I'm optimistic about him in the band.

Don't forget your video camera's ;)

Edit: Oh... and it's going to look very, very strange looking at a group picture with Pete in it. It was strange enough when Atom started entering the pictures, now it's going to be even stranger I think... lol

[HeadAroundU]

Do we have some Japanese fans on here who will record Summer Sonic shows?

They should have hired this guy. He is more than awesome for the offspring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SNytfkJD4U

[Jojan]

Do we have some Japanese fans on here who will record Summer Sonic shows?

They should have hired this guy. He is more than awesome for the offspring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SNytfkJD4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEGuYzvEqHE Not ever one year old.

[TheOldMark]

Whatever, we'll see how Pete does a Summer Sonic. I'm optimistic about him in the band.

hopefully we get some live feeds like Live Earth. Do we have anyone here from Japan, or wealthy enough to fly there for the show?

oh also I doubt Pete has had sufficient time to practice all the songs, so I wouldn't rip him apart if he sucks the first 3 shows...

[nieh]

He should be fine considering 90% of Offspring songs have the same drum part.

[defyuk]

im not surprised by the news, i think it was coming for a while but i'm not that upset by it. he wasn't with the band for very long although i did like him. i hope the new guy likes being in the band and wants to become permanent. i'm sure he will be good cos they wouldn't have chosen him if he wasn't would they? i have to admit i'd never heard of him but welcome to the offspring! :) and also good luck to atom :)

as for the album it sounds like its getting there (finishing touches) and i think its a good update letting us know theres no release date, we've been speculating about that for a while now!

[Little_Miss_1565]

i agree. i understand why dexter kept it under wraps, but now would be a good time to give us an explanation.

What else is there to explain, really? Considering how badly people have been flipping out over the drummer situation on this board for the last several months, I wouldn't have wanted to fuel that either.

[German Andres]

He should be fine considering 90% of Offspring songs have the same drum part.


I was looking over the net and Pete is considered one of the greatest drummers ever, due to his very acelerated and "galloping" style (I listened that in youtube).
And in other interview I listened that he practices a lot of hours per day, and they were praising Pete for that. And having in mind that almost every Offspring songs have the same drumming, he will do great.
But I think that Pete is too good to be part of The Offspring...

[DeAtHsTaR]

hopefully we get some live feeds like Live Earth. Do we have anyone here from Japan, or wealthy enough to fly there for the show?

oh also I doubt Pete has had sufficient time to practice all the songs, so I wouldn't rip him apart if he sucks the first 3 shows...

He's most likely been in the band for a couple months, they just hadn't announced it to the public.

[drex878]

He's most likely been in the band for a couple months, they just hadn't announced it to the public.

I kinda agree. Think about it, if Atom just left, then some tracks would have already been recorded by him. Josh Freese has been doing all of it so, maybe Atom left a while ago, and the band announced it once they found themselves a full-time drummer, Pete Parada.

[Zee]

He's most likely been in the band for a couple months, they just hadn't announced it to the public.

He decided to leave his other band to due to a new start with a new band (apparently The Offspring) at March already, so... they must've had many many rehearsals, you don't want to be bad in front of such a big festival as Summer Sonic.

[TheOldMark]

What else is there to explain, really? Considering how badly people have been flipping out over the drummer situation on this board for the last several months, I wouldn't have wanted to fuel that either.

thatd be like the website's official announcement of the band leaving epitaph, without Dexter's explanation (for those of you who dont remember, it was like a 2 page essay on the beef they had with greg, contract details, ect.. he sent it directly to the fan mailing list run by Cory Hammer). Now this isn't quite the same thing.

So I might expect a new journal post to go like
Hey guys. Got a new drummer. We liked Atom but we had some scheduling conflicts with his other band angels and airwaves, and he opted to stay with them. We wish him the best. So earlier this year we started looking for a new, permanent drummer, while Josh Freese helped us out in the studio. We looked at about 10 guys and chose Pete Parada. We're really excited to start touring with him, he is an amazing drummer..........


Reasonable? Or wishful thinking?

[drex878]

I'd say reasonable.

[H1T_That]

Sounds about right.

[Little_Miss_1565]

Atom is rad and all, but I'd say that the band's relationship with Epitaph ran a little deeper and would require a two-page personal explanation. They ran an official announcement, the facts are all there, I just don't get what a journal entry about it would accomplish.

Besides, I'd almost think that not having a journal entry about it is better. I'd say of everything I've had to delete on sight in the last year, the stuff that wasn't Venom was usually something awful about Atom being in AVA. Given the climate on the site about Atom being in two bands (well, now one), I wouldn't want to say anything about it if I were them and wanting to keep a positive attitude for their buddy.

[TheOldMark]

Atom is rad and all, but I'd say that the band's relationship with Epitaph ran a little deeper and would require a two-page personal explanation. They ran an official announcement, the facts are all there, I just don't get what a journal entry about it would accomplish.



I don't think its up to you to decide what journal entries are appropriate. This is a new turning point with the band, and should Dexter choose to clarify whats been happening, we the fans would welcome it.

[nieh]

I don't think its up to you to decide what journal entries are appropriate.

It's not up to you either, it's up to the band.

[endlesst0m]

The one thing I am little bit curious about is, why Atom is only just now realizing that he can't pull off doing both bands? I mean, what exactly happened that made him realize he couldn't do it? Why didn't he see this coming?

[H1T_That]

It's not up to you either, it's up to the band.

I agree with Josh.

[sebastienfan]

anyway, it doesn't matter right now if Pete is good or not because he only have to drum on the offspring already made songs, I could do it, lets just see what kind of energy he will bring on stage because the next next album is like in a thousand years.

[Ninty Man]

anyway, it doesn't matter right now if Pete is good or not because he only have to drum on the offspring already made songs, I could do it, lets just see what kind of energy he will bring on stage because the next next album is like in a thousand years.

MMM... are you sure you can do Offspring drum parts??? I know they sound kinda the same... but each song has details

[DexterHollandIsGod]

the next next album is like in a thousand years.


A thousand years, thats a little drastic, maybe something more like a thousand days (ha, see what i did there? a thousnd days :D)

[nameless]

I was looking over the net and Pete is considered one of the greatest drummers ever, due to his very acelerated and "galloping" style (I listened that in youtube).
And in other interview I listened that he practices a lot of hours per day, and they were praising Pete for that. And having in mind that almost every Offspring songs have the same drumming, he will do great.
But I think that Pete is too good to be part of The Offspring...

it doesnt really matter what hes dont before or how highly everyone rates him, he is just going to play the same parts ron and atom played. as for the selection process, it was probably josh freese who recommended him just as he did with atom. i doubt they auditioned loads of people seeing as they are in the process of recording!

[BustedKnuckles]

It was back in January when it was first rumored that Atom was out of the band...I'm guessing that was around when they started looking for a new drummer.

I don't know why, but I am actually very happy with Josh Freese doing drums for the album. I thought the drums on Splinter had more "life" to them than Welty tracks. Don't ask me why, but I personally think that because Josh is a better drummer than Welty it gives Dexter more flexibility to do what he wants with the drum parts. Take the fill in on Long Way Home...where was that on any other album? Ok I'm done...I like the drums on Splinter.

[Ninty Man]

It was back in January when it was first rumored that Atom was out of the band...I'm guessing that was around when they started looking for a new drummer.

I don't know why, but I am actually very happy with Josh Freese doing drums for the album. I thought the drums on Splinter had more "life" to them than Welty tracks. Don't ask me why, but I personally think that because Josh is a better drummer than Welty it gives Dexter more flexibility to do what he wants with the drum parts. Take the fill in on Long Way Home...where was that on any other album? Ok I'm done...I like the drums on Splinter.

MMMM.... Tehran drum parts... OWNS every splinter drum XD... but you have kinda a point. Obviously Freese is better that Ron... BUT!!! Ron was pushed back by Dexter I think kinda... well... you can hear may differences in drums between Ignition, Smash, Ixnay and Americana... the worst drum parts are in conspiracy... with exceptions like Million Miles, and maybe conspiracy of one, and... the filling in Dammit.

To make my point: Welty wasn't (and isn't a bad drummer), but he has to play what dexter said... and Freese... well, is Josh FUCKING Freese

[ZagmenO]

I just thought of something. Pete still has yet to make an account on here and they still have Atom registered!

[noodlestheman]

i hated atom. he was so unoriginal im so glad that they got a new drummer and i really hope he sticks around. i would have liked to see josh freese actually as a member of the band and not just a recording member but this pete guy sounds pretty good

[Little_Miss_1565]

I don't think its up to you to decide what journal entries are appropriate.

LOL, says the guy so adamant about what they should write a journal entry about that he actually wrote it for them. Old MacDonald had a LOL, L-O-L-O-L.

[TheOldMark]

What else is there to explain, really? Considering how badly people have been flipping out over the drummer situation on this board for the last several months, I wouldn't have wanted to fuel that either.

I just don't get what a journal entry about it would accomplish.

Besides, I'd almost think that not having a journal entry about it is better. .

LOL, says the guy so adamant about what they should write a journal entry about that he actually wrote it for them. Old MacDonald had a LOL, L-O-L-O-L.


There you have it, our moderator claiming nothing else needs to be said, nothing should be said, and then laughing when its proven plenty more could be said. i made a prediction. laugh all you want.
Do you even like The Offspring??

[BustedKnuckles]

Little Miss and Mark should be banned from talking to each other. Seriously. Stop ruining threads by fighting like two pissed off clawless cats. It gets you nowhere and doesn't raise your position in the after life.

[nieh]

How does any of that have anything to do with whether or not she likes the band? Seriously, it's starting to sound like you're bitter that she got fan of the day before and you didn't.

[drex878]

There you have it, our moderator claiming nothing else needs to be said, nothing should be said, and then laughing when its proven plenty more could be said. i made a prediction. laugh all you want.
Do you even like The Offspring??

I'm With Mark.

Hoorah!

[TheOldMark]

Little Miss and Mark should be banned from talking to each other. Seriously. Stop ruining threads by fighting like two pissed off clawless cats. It gets you nowhere and doesn't raise your position in the after life.

i would love it if it would stop. notice, she responds hostilely to each and every one of my posts. i have asked her to stop numerous times. i am sick of it.


Seriously, it's starting to sound like you're bitter that she got fan of the day before and you didn't.
I never applied for fan of the day.

[XYlophonetreeZ]

It unsettles me how people could become so attached to a drummer that was an "official member" of a band for 4 years and never recorded a single thing with them. I know that wasn't his fault, but most of the Atom fans have seen him in what, one live show on average? If they were lucky enough to live in a place they toured?

BTW:Pete backwards is Etep.
Winchilada con mucho winsauce.

[jacknife737]

, It unsettles me how people could become so attached to a drummer that was an "official member" of a band for 4 years and never recorded a single thing with them

Well i can't speak for everyone, but i've been a fan of Atom since his Rocket from the Crypt days...

[Little_Miss_1565]

Sorry, I refuse to be intimidated. Keep trying, though--it's cute. And no, of course I don't like the Offspring, that's why I've been here for 11 years. Please tattle on me.

Is it even worth pointing out all the times that I said "I think" in my statements quoted? I've made no proclamations, just called it as I see it, which anyone is free to disagree with, so long as it's also your opinion and not your declaration that this is the way things are and should be--in the latter case, no matter who you are, I will jump up your ass. Sorry, it's just the way I roll.

[wazzup22]

i hated atom. he was so unoriginal im so glad that they got a new drummer and i really hope he sticks around.

Pun intended? :p

[HeadAroundU]

Little Miss and Mark should be banned from talking to each other. Seriously. Stop ruining threads by fighting like two pissed off clawless cats. It gets you nowhere and doesn't raise your position in the after life.
I agree.

1565, just say your opinion, 1 post and that's it. You are not gonna change him. Everybody knows that he is an idiot.

[Little_Miss_1565]

Then back me up, please. I'm very tired of defending myself against irrationality.

[ilovellamas]

Here goes my off topic post of the day...

I can't speak for everyone, but I personally don't back you up here because it's so off topic... I feel that if the argument was occurring with anyone besides you, it'd be deleted. You are right in these arguments, but that's the reason I personally don't back you up.

[HeadAroundU]

I don't feel like backing you up too. He wishes the special update, well...ok, ignore. He has the right to wish anything. If it was some other guy, then ok, talk to him as passionate as you want (I wouldn't back you up too), but this is fucking Mark, even Dexter hates him.

Hint: Don't waste more than one post on him.

lulz, I want to give you a hug. You are such a caring person.

I think that we will get some informations about it in the interviews.

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http://www.punknews.org/article/22956
Pete Parada has left Saves The Day. Parada, a veteran of bands including Face to Face, Jackson United, Alkaline Trio and Engine, had this to say:

After four and a half years with Saves The Day, it saddens me to report that I have decided to leave the band. I wish them all the best of luck and look forward to starting fresh with a new band.

Pete is promising updates on his newly launched myspace page.

[TheOldMark]

Sorry, I refuse to be intimidated. Keep trying, though--it's cute. And no, of course I don't like the Offspring, that's why I've been here for 11 years. Please tattle on me.

Is it even worth pointing out all the times that I said "I think" in my statements quoted? I've made no proclamations, just called it as I see it, which anyone is free to disagree with, so long as it's also your opinion and not your declaration that this is the way things are and should be--in the latter case, no matter who you are, I will jump up your ass. Sorry, it's just the way I roll.

we all know you feel threatened, but nobodys trying to intimidate you. just let me post. if you want to disagree thats fine but keep it to one post, i really dont appreciate you negating every one of my posts but your entitled to your opinion as am I. however the constant bickering is ruining threads, and its clear other members would prefer that you stop it.
I don't think its appropriate for a moderator to jump on everyone's ass.
I don't think I'm wrong by suggesting/wishing that Dexter could/should follow up the official announcement with a journal.
Never thought I'd say that HeadaroundU is right, if we don't see this in journals, we will see it in interviews. Simply because more can be said.

[That_Guy91]

I don't understand, what else do you want to be said?

[TheOldMark]

I don't understand, what else do you want to be said?

check my previous posts in this thread for my hypothetical example...


this is getting out of hand. you all really dont expect any direct statements from the band about a NEW MEMBER???

[Linda]

Mark, when are you going to just face up to the fact that you're an idiot and go away?

[SkunkIt]

Holy crap, Linda's back! I thought she went extinct (from the board).

[punkrockcowboy]

Well, I think Mark has a point to an extent, this is a big deal... but at the same time... because this comes in conjunction with Adam leaving I think it might be awkward for Dexter to personally write about the situation. Combine that with the fact that Dexter hardly writes anything (I'll wait, that's fine, but I don't care what you guys say he doesn't write that often compared to other bands in the studio) and you've got a good likelihood that he wouldn't make a post about it.

[drex878]

Aye fuck off people, the boards are for people to show their views on certain topics, this specificaly is about the "new drummer". Mark's just showing his opinion and point. All you guys are hatin and its gettin way off-topic. Mark's not an idiot, he's an offspring fan like all of us. Little_Miss_1565, you reply to every one of Mark's posts, seriously, get a life. Your being an unfair moderator.

[nameless]

It was back in January when it was first rumored that Atom was out of the band...I'm guessing that was around when they started looking for a new drummer.

I don't know why, but I am actually very happy with Josh Freese doing drums for the album. I thought the drums on Splinter had more "life" to them than Welty tracks. Don't ask me why, but I personally think that because Josh is a better drummer than Welty it gives Dexter more flexibility to do what he wants with the drum parts. Take the fill in on Long Way Home...where was that on any other album? Ok I'm done...I like the drums on Splinter.

i think the reason there was nothing lie the fill in long way home on other albums as dexter didnt want one! its accentuated as everything else stops, other wise it would most likely be another fill like ron played in session for example!

[Little_Miss_1565]

I don't think I'm wrong by suggesting/wishing that Dexter could/should follow up the official announcement with a journal.

And I don't understand what is so fucking controversial about my saying I don't think it's necessary. It's not like the band does whatever I tell them, it's my fucking opinion and was presented as such.

Little_Miss_1565, you reply to every one of Mark's posts, seriously, get a life. Your being an unfair moderator.

Look at my track record, I reply to a LOT of people's posts, not just Mark. He just whines the most about it.

[leo3375]

If I may:

If the band wants to get into more detail about why Atom left and why they chose Pete as the new drummer, they have every right to do so. Likewise, they have the right to be tight-lipped about it. So should they go into detail about it? Not if they don't want to.

I will welcome Pete to the band, even though I'm still nostalgic for the 1990s line-up.

[Little_Miss_1565]

If the band wants to get into more detail about why Atom left and why they chose Pete as the new drummer, they have every right to do so. Likewise, they have the right to be tight-lipped about it. So should they go into detail about it? Not if they don't want to.

I will welcome Pete to the band, even though I'm still nostalgic for the 1990s line-up.

^ Amen, sista, and what she said.

[Jakebert]

I have to say, I'm fairly surprised at the reaction to this. I figured this entire thread would be "FUCK ATOM! I HATE ANGELS AND AIRWAVES!", but there's only been a handful of posts like that.

As for the big debate: I think both LM and Mark are right and wrong at the same time. Mark isn't wrong for wanting the band to elaborate, but he certainly shouldn't act like they're in the wrong for doing it. LM is right in her opinion that it's up to the band, but I don't think that Mark did anything so wrong that this needs to be stretched out. Don't get me wrong, he usually deserves all of the shit thrown at him, because he's unquestionably retarded, but I really don't think he did that much in this thread.

[Little_Miss_1565]

Don't get me wrong, he usually deserves all of the shit thrown at him, because he's unquestionably retarded, but I really don't think he did that much in this thread.

All he did was insist on reading whatever negativity he wants in my posts and spreading his poison around. Accusing me of not liking the band out of nowhere just because I disagreed with him? Not appropriate to the discussion. But if someone is going to continuously and insistently misinterpret what I say, I'm going to need to correct it. That's it.

[Jakebert]

I guess that does make sense. If I were in your situation, I'd probably do the same thing too.

[Linda]

Holy crap, Linda's back! I thought she went extinct (from the board).

I'm here a few times a week. ;)

Look at my track record, I reply to a LOT of people's posts, not just Mark. He just whines the most about it.

Quoted for truth!

[TheOldMark]

If I may:

If the band wants to get into more detail about why Atom left and why they chose Pete as the new drummer, they have every right to do so. Likewise, they have the right to be tight-lipped about it. So should they go into detail about it? Not if they don't want to.

I will welcome Pete to the band, even though I'm still nostalgic for the 1990s line-up.

i agree. so my point was what do you expect to happen?

[That_Guy91]

check my previous posts in this thread for my hypothetical example...


this is getting out of hand. you all really dont expect any direct statements from the band about a NEW MEMBER???

I saw, you said you wanted Dexter to post a journal entry about Atom leaving. What I'm asking is, why is it so important that there be a journal entry saying exactly what the main page said? What are you asking to be clarified?

[RonWelty]

If I may:

If the band wants to get into more detail about why Atom left and why they chose Pete as the new drummer, they have every right to do so. Likewise, they have the right to be tight-lipped about it. So should they go into detail about it? Not if they don't want to.

I will welcome Pete to the band, even though I'm still nostalgic for the 1990s line-up.i´m with you, Steady Ground new album release seems a mirage, so why doesn´t dexter call ron welty again? please please lol

[Dexter_italy]

Because Ron left.... so there's no reason to call him back... If they didn't go along together why come back? Let's take the fact the Offspring are now 3 with a touring drummer... I don't see the shame since we all know Dexter writes the most of the drum parts and we have Josh in the studio who is amazing.... Really...if things go well in this way they have to keep this way!

[TheOldMark]

I saw, you said you wanted Dexter to post a journal entry about Atom leaving. What I'm asking is, why is it so important that there be a journal entry saying exactly what the main page said? What are you asking to be clarified?

well again, see my hypothetical example. how about why/how they picked pete? I would feel Dexter was avoiding something if he did not directly comment.

[TheOldMark]

You can add Pete on Myspace http://www.myspace.com/peteparada

[nieh]

Isn't that exactly the point other people were trying to make? If Dex wanted to give a big long explanation, he would have and we should respect the fact that he didn't because he probably had his reasons not to. If he didn't have any specific reason for it then he'll probably end up letting more info out anyway during interviews as has already been stated. The band is entitled to some privacy and trying to pull the 'but fans deserve to know!' thing is just garbage. We know all that needs to be known, anything else is personal and should only be told to us if the band chooses to tell it.

[That_Guy91]

well again, see my hypothetical example. how about why/how they picked pete? I would feel Dexter was avoiding something if he did not directly comment.

Well, I'm assuming it's because he's a good drummer and he was available. I don't see what explanation he could possibly be avoiding that wouldn't be obvious, or why it's relevant.

[im da hui]

fuck u all! u obviusly dont c the effect of all this! fuck u guys! im going home!

[Linda]

well again, see my hypothetical example. how about why/how they picked pete? I would feel Dexter was avoiding something if he did not directly comment.

Maybe Dexter feels it's none of YOUR damn business and doesn't give a damn how YOU feel.

[Little_Miss_1565]

fuck u all! u obviusly dont c the effect of all this! fuck u guys! im going home!

Obviously not the same way you do, can you explain?

[nameless]

well i guess dexter and atom have cleared everything up now, it was quite simple in the end!

[Peedr]

Yeah, I've just read it and it's as we were expecting it to be.

[jacknife737]

Huntington Beach, CA (Dexter)
08/01/07

Dear Offspring Fans,

Atom and I wanted to drop you guys a little note, since we know people have been talking about why Atom has left the drummer seat for The Offspring.

The simple truth is that Atom had been working on a few of his own projects during our down time, including Angels & Airwaves but other things too. We think that‘s great. Unfortunately, in order for him to see those things through he isn‘t left with enough time to devote to future Offspring stuff. It was a tough choice, but we understand.

Atom‘s been a great drummer for us and we‘re sure Pete will be great too!

Dexter and Atom

in case anyone missed it....

[TheOldMark]

Maybe Dexter feels it's none of YOUR damn business and doesn't give a damn how YOU feel.

I hope the new journal makes you feel really stupid now.

[German Andres]

I hope the new journal makes you feel really stupid now.


jejejejeje

[drex878]

I hope the new journal makes you feel really stupid now.

Hahahaha, Mark just pwned you all. :D

[Awesome_Avril]

i wasnt exactly in shock when when i read the bulletin, although i didnt expect it either.

i remember someone posting a thread about atom and the band when they were apparently starting work on the new album. they met him at an angels and airwaves gig and did say that atom had told them josh freese would be working on the next album. its also been quite well documented that atom has been recording with angels and airwaves and their album is due out soon. i dont see why people still thought he was still recording with the offspring?!



I was the one who met Atom at the last AvA show in December 2006. I talked to him before and after the show for a total of about 30 minutes and reported what he had told me on the boards back then. I guess that I was wrong to believe the man. He seemed VERY positive about being able to be in both bands. He was adamant about not giving up AvA because of the chance to compose the drums. He did say that Josh was recording some and since it was AvA last show for that tour, that he would be back in California the next day to work on both Offspring and AvA material.

Anyway, I’m bummed out about this because I have some great pictures (16”X20” enlargements) that I took at Brixton Academy gig in London autographed by a now former Offspring member. I hope to get the other members’ autographs on their next tour. They will still look great framed in my music room but it’s just not as meaningful as if he were still in the band.

Good Luck Atom!!

[Offspring-Junkie]

Just bad luck! I'd be disappointed either.

[OffspringPsycho]

Fine by me, especially since Josh Freese was the one on the album (not the newbie or Atom). Atom's a kickass guy, but I think he fits in A&A much better than he did in Offspring. I still miss ron :mad:

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1166/84209103kx9.jpg

[drex878]

Hahaha, nice pic bro. :D

[Linda]

I hope the new journal makes you feel really stupid now.

Not even close.

[DefaultNinja]

Fine by me, especially since Josh Freese was the one on the album (not the newbie or Atom). Atom's a kickass guy, but I think he fits in A&A much better than he did in Offspring. I still miss ron :mad:


Ah, you aren't the only one man. *Pats on back*

Pete'll do good though.

[drex878]

Ah, you aren't the only one man. *Pats on back*

Pete'll do good though.

I completely agree.

[Trippy_]

Did they have auditions?

http://www.mi.edu/NewsandEvents/?action=detail&id=468

[cool 2 hate 681]

Did they have auditions?

http://www.mi.edu/NewsandEvents/?action=detail&id=468

i don't know it looks like it

but i know they had them when james lilja left which ron welty won

[nameless]

i don't know it looks like it

but i know they had them when james lilja left which ron welty won

i dont think they had auditions when james left, ron was just hanging out with them and filled in when james couldnt make it. after a while they just asked ron to join!

[Pena]

Who remember my thread about this in very time ago???

Atom is a fantastic drummer but...gone.:mad:

[nameless]

Who remember my thread about this in very time ago???

Atom is a fantastic drummer but...gone.:mad:

there were quite a few regarding atoms future, the band has to move on though!

[drex878]

I remember quite a while ago in The New Offspring Album thread, a lot of people were panicing about how Atom is going to be recording for AVA at the same time The Offspring album was being recorded. After that confusion we had, it was weeks untill a responce was posted there. I'm sure many of us saw this coming.

[funkmonkey]

agreed. i saw it a million miles away... *rimshot*

[SplinterByMyOwnDesign]

Come back Ron :(

Where's the fucking commitment?

[Little_Miss_1565]

Come back Ron :(

Where's the fucking commitment?

Oh, come on, stop that. Shit happens!

I've never understood--if Ron is cool with what happened, and Atom is cool with what happened, and above all the band is cool with what happened, why do so many people on this board have a hard time accepting and being positive about it?

[SplinterByMyOwnDesign]

Oh, come on, stop that. Shit happens!

I've never understood--if Ron is cool with what happened, and Atom is cool with what happened, and above all the band is cool with what happened, why do so many people on this board have a hard time accepting and being positive about it?

Because we're not the band

[That_Guy91]

Because we're not the band

Exactly. You should care less.

[Z-Speak]

It's not like a new drummer will make a big difference anyway.

[BustedKnuckles]

I've never understood--if Ron is cool with what happened, and Atom is cool with what happened, and above all the band is cool with what happened, why do so many people on this board have a hard time accepting and being positive about it?

Because they are secretly emo.

[German Andres]

It's not like a new drummer will make a big difference anyway.


I don`t agree. Changing the drummer means a lot, and the difference in soung is very noticeable. Again I`ll talk about Splinter: the main difference between Splinter and the rest of the albums is the drumming. It is more solid, innovative, it`s better in every single aspect....(awesome the fill in Long Way Home, never heard Ron playing one of those). It matches perfectly with the album`s sound. I love Ron, but he wouldn`t have done it as good as Freese did it on Splinter. He did an amazing work

[Z-Speak]

Everybody keeps saying that Dexter writes everything; the bass, drums, guitrar, everything. While I'm not sure if that's true or not, if it was true, then it wouldn't make a difference. Pretty much any drummer with moderate to good skill can play the things that Dexter writes. And since skill is more writing than playing, I really think it wouldn't make a difference and that Dexter just had new inspiration for Splinter's drums.

[drex878]

Everybody keeps saying that Dexter writes everything; the bass, drums, guitrar, everything. While I'm not sure if that's true or not, if it was true, then it wouldn't make a difference. Pretty much any drummer with moderate to good skill can play the things that Dexter writes. And since skill is more writing than playing, I really think it wouldn't make a difference and that Dexter just had new inspiration for Splinter's drums.

Whatever Z-Speak, think what you wan't; a drummer makes a difference. :mad:

[Little_Miss_1565]

He's not saying that the drummer doesn't matter. Of course the drummer matters. What he's saying is that the same person continues to write the drum parts.

But if it's not a big deal to the band, to whom it should be the biggest deal, it should be less of a big deal to the fans. Right?

[cr4ni0]

I hope Pete stays with them for the rest of the band's days. From what I've read, he's damn good on drums.

[TheOldMark]

I hope Pete stays with them for the rest of the band's days. From what I've read, he's damn good on drums.

I hope your right, but I don't know if that will happen. If you look at Pete's track record, he doesnt seem to stay with one band for too long. Hes too good.

[cr4ni0]

I hope your right, but I don't know if that will happen. If you look at Pete's track record, he doesnt seem to stay with one band for too long. Hes too good.

Have hope...have hope! :p

[Ninty Man]

I don`t agree. Changing the drummer means a lot, and the difference in soung is very noticeable. Again I`ll talk about Splinter: the main difference between Splinter and the rest of the albums is the drumming. It is more solid, innovative, it`s better in every single aspect....(awesome the fill in Long Way Home, never heard Ron playing one of those). It matches perfectly with the album`s sound. I love Ron, but he wouldn`t have done it as good as Freese did it on Splinter. He did an amazing work

I must repeat

Tehran, Forever and a day, Kill the president, Dammit guys... Ron is an above average drummer, underrated in fact, but limited by Dexter

[Dexter_italy]

Tehran and kill the president weren't written by Ron... Just like almost the S\t. Ignition has a really good drumming. But then 5 albums came out with his drumming with really nothing special on 'em ( I know Dexter writes almost all the drum parts). Anyway what I mean is that the strenght of the Offspring isn't the drums but guitars and vocals, so who's behind the drumkit wont make this big difference. But a big welcome to Pete and good work

[German Andres]

Tehran and kill the president weren't written by Ron...


So they were written by Dexter you mean? Who wrote the drums for Splinter then? Freese?

[HeadAroundU]

He meant James Lilja. I'm not sure about Kill the president...

[nameless]

He meant James Lilja. I'm not sure about Kill the president...

yeah, there was a clip of an early gig with james playing tehran. its not the best qualityt so ron may well have altered the parts!

[Ninty Man]

yeah, there was a clip of an early gig with james playing tehran. its not the best qualityt so ron may well have altered the parts!

MMM... not, maybe not, but he made nearly everything else, and fuck, you won't tell me that dex has the ability to compose kill the president???

[German Andres]

MMM... not, maybe not, but he made nearly everything else, and fuck, you won't tell me that dex has the ability to compose kill the president???


Jajaja, if he had the ability to compose it, he wouldn`t be playing the guitar

[Little_Miss_1565]

Some people can play many instruments and yet not play them in a band. Danny Elfman plays the violin, guitar, bass, drums, and all manner of other instruments but in Oingo Boingo, he most often didn't play anything at all--sometimes he played guitar, but that's it. And he wrote most of the music there.

It is entirely possible that Dexter, a guitar player, could write drum parts.

[Mens]

I compose also all drumparts, basslines and guitarparts for my band.
But you'll never see me on stage drumming.

[hotsilver]

history repeating itself? didnt ron leave for some other band and was never heard of again.

at the end of the day i hate to say it but they are only drummers they never seem to have that much imput into the band since the offspring have a history of changing drummers.

i know that this may have been mentioned before but i jus do not have the time or can be fuckked to read the 20 pages of post there is on this!

[nameless]

history repeating itself? didnt ron leave for some other band and was never heard of again.

at the end of the day i hate to say it but they are only drummers they never seem to have that much imput into the band since the offspring have a history of changing drummers.

i know that this may have been mentioned before but i jus do not have the time or can be fuckked to read the 20 pages of post there is on this!

you can hardly say they have a "history" of changing drummers, theres been 4 since they started, 5 if you feel the need to include josh freese!

[patoff10]

Pete rocks ! He fits good with the Offspring, more than Atom, and a little like Ron.

[Macko]

Some people can play many instruments and yet not play them in a band. Danny Elfman plays the violin, guitar, bass, drums, and all manner of other instruments but in Oingo Boingo, he most often didn't play anything at all--sometimes he played guitar, but that's it. And he wrote most of the music there.

It is entirely possible that Dexter, a guitar player, could write drum parts.

Just watch hidden feature from "Complete Music Video Collection" where Dexter plays drumms...

[~!@#$_Rabble4life_$#@!~]

Just watch hidden feature from "Complete Music Video Collection" where Dexter plays drumms...

yeah and he sucks. he actually probably cant play drums, because i dont drum and i could play that, hes not even using the bass drum!

[Davo]

Where I can find some pictures?
...or some information (hobby, age...)?
...of course about Pete Parada.

[ilovellamas]

I just wanted to add onto what 1565 said, only using maybe a broader example. When you think about classical music, you have a composer. The composer can usually play one instrument (often times it's piano), and then they compose for an ENTIRE orchestra. So you wouldn't say "Well, Mozart was a piano player, so he didn't write the cello parts!" You don't have to know how to play an instrument in order to write for it...

[fergiepunk]

Josh is doing drums for this album too, shouldnt they just try and make him a member.

[Kitten]

Josh is doing drums for this album too, shouldnt they just try and make him a member.

I am sure if they could have, they would have. However, Josh is obviously enjoying what he is doing, and in the long run, with his various projects, they would have ended up with another Atom.

[leo3375]

Josh is doing drums for this album too, shouldnt they just try and make him a member.

If I recall correctly, Josh was offered the drummer position in 2003 but declined it. He has a lot of projects going on, whether it's recording drum parts for someone's album or touring with a band.

[mrconeman]

I just wanted to add onto what 1565 said, only using maybe a broader example. When you think about classical music, you have a composer. The composer can usually play one instrument (often times it's piano), and then they compose for an ENTIRE orchestra. So you wouldn't say "Well, Mozart was a piano player, so he didn't write the cello parts!" You don't have to know how to play an instrument in order to write for it...
And to add further to that, you can compose without playing any instrument at all, you just have to have a decent ear for music. Both my uncle and brother use audio production programs and make electronic music, neither of them play an instrument.

All in all it's extremely possible that Dexter writes everything.

[.:SMASH:.]

Definately. It is ridiculous to claim that if you can't write it if you can't play it.

I used to do it playing guitar. Although now I'm a lot better now and I'd have to be high to be capable of writing something technical enough that I couldn't play - not that I think I'm awesome at guitar, I'm just not creative with solos =p

[DirtyYeso]

i play guitar also and i write the bass lines and the vocal lines in my band so its actually possible that dexter does even the drums

I just dont do the drums cause i dont know how to tab them :p

[Lightning Rod]

Ron Welty was The Best......
Cause He Was In The Beginning))

[0r4ng3]

According to that logic, wouldn't that make James Lilja the best?

[Stranger With Candy]

According to that logic, wouldn't that make James Lilja the best?

Actoally, it would make Dexter the best drummer.

[Davo]

Where I can find some pictures?
...or some information (hobby, age...)?
...of course about Pete Parada.

Nobody knows?:confused: