What are they waiting for?

[Killboy]

Here's the thing:
It's known that Radiohead broke all the links with their label as far as I know, and they're just giving away their new album on the Internet. It looks like Coldplay and Madonna are doing it as well.
My question is, what's The Offspring waiting for?? I mean, from the beginning they supported Napster and they wanted to do the same thing with CO1. Why they don't begin now since Internet has become this huge??

[mrconeman]

Somewhere deep down I hope they never release the new album, just to annoy these sorts of people.

A few people asking a few times I can understand, but theres discussion about them taking too long every damn day, we already know exactly whats taking them so long, they're writing and recording an album, it will be out when they feel it's ready.

[Killboy]

Somewhere deep down I hope they never release the new album, just to annoy these sorts of people.

A few people asking a few times I can understand, but theres discussion about them taking too long every damn day, we already know exactly whats taking them so long, they're writing and recording an album, it will be out when they feel it's ready.

I guess you didn't understand what I was trying to say...
I'm not try to push the new album's release, what I mean is, why don't they give it through Internet (whenever it's ready) like Radiohead?

[jacknife737]

i'm not really a big fan of this whole album online release thing. Honestly even if the band offered it up one their site for a donation or whatever, I still don't think i'd listen to it until the actual physical cd was released.

[Killboy]

Well, the things that I consider cool from an original CD:

* Lyrics booklet
* Good sound quality

If they offer their new album on the net, we could take for granted that it will be excellent quality. The lyrics can always be viewed in this page, and you can just burn a music CD once you have all the songs.

[Ninty Man]

They are waiting that emo dies

[Killboy]

... that emo dies

That's an utopian thought...

[Kitten]

Their record label would have to back that sort of release, considering they are still under contract.

[Hypodermic_89]

I guess you didn't understand what I was trying to say...
I'm not try to push the new album's release, what I mean is, why don't they give it through Internet (whenever it's ready) like Radiohead?
I think it's too early to say because it's not ready yet. They we're going to release Co1 for free on the net but Columbia didn't like that idea so they only released Original Prankster.

[Splinter[PI]]

why don't they release a single from the new album on the page?
I'd love to listen to Hammerhead in studio-quality!

[mrconeman]

Because they probably haven't gotten one ready yet. My God do you people ever learn.

[Killboy]

I think it's too early to say because it's not ready yet. They we're going to release Co1 for free on the net but Columbia didn't like that idea so they only released Original Prankster.

Yeah, but Internet wasn't as popular as it is nowadays; besides, back then, other artists hadn't launched their albums through Internet; now we have Radiohead and some other bands seem to like the idea. My point is, why can't The Offspring continue with what they had in mind from the beginning? It'll be great!

[Dexter_italy]

Well, the things that I consider cool from an original CD:

* Lyrics booklet
* Good sound quality

If they offer their new album on the net, we could take for granted that it will be excellent quality. The lyrics can always be viewed in this page, and you can just burn a music CD once you have all the songs.



first of all mp3's have always a lower quality, second having the lyrics on a web page and on a booklet it's totally different, it's missing the vibe a booklet has, the context of a cd. third you burn a cd-r and not an audio cd wich isn't the same. Really......down with the on line cd....
Or better, it's a good thing but it won't take the place of a real cd...

[funkmonkey]

the Radiohead thing was at first hailed as a breakthrough...but really its was just a marketing ploy.
if you got it online, sure you paid what you wanted, if at all...but then the album was realized on CD, and the audio quality was superior, and the CD had bonus tracks. so those people who got it online, were screwed. radiohead didnt go label free, they went to a new label that released In Rainbows.

[Little_Miss_1565]

the Radiohead thing was at first hailed as a breakthrough...but really its was just a marketing ploy.
if you got it online, sure you paid what you wanted, if at all...but then the album was realized on CD, and the audio quality was superior, and the CD had bonus tracks. so those people who got it online, were screwed. radiohead didnt go label free, they went to a new label that released In Rainbows.

Quoted for truth. It was a genius marketing ploy.

Also, what Radiohead did is not something that most other bands can really do. It's also not a project that a lot of other bands even have the desire to take on. It could work for the Offspring, it might not. I have no idea. But I just wanted to put that out there because after Radiohead did it, loads of people started asking why more bands don't do it.

[nieh]

I still think it was funny that In Rainbows shot up to number one for downloads when it was first released to iTunes. The fact that people could've downloaded it for any price they wanted (including nothing, legally) but decided not to and bought it over iTunes just confuses me. Why not just buy a physical copy?

[Killboy]

first of all mp3's have always a lower quality, second having the lyrics on a web page and on a booklet it's totally different, it's missing the vibe a booklet has, the context of a cd. third you burn a cd-r and not an audio cd wich isn't the same. Really......down with the on line cd....
Or better, it's a good thing but it won't take the place of a real cd...

Well, there are programs like MP3 Doctor which let you amplify the sound quality of an MP3.
The booklet can be easily simulted with a program like Publisher, although it will lack of the cool artwork, but the main thing is that you can print the lyrics and make them fit into the booklet's size.

I'm not saying that just becuz Radiohead did it, then The Offspring must do it as well. What I'm trying to say is that The Offspring has had this kind of ideology for the music on the Internet; now that it's beginning the tendency, why don't they do what they've been wanting since CO1??

[JohnnyNemesis]

I still think it was funny that In Rainbows shot up to number one for downloads when it was first released to iTunes. The fact that people could've downloaded it for any price they wanted (including nothing, legally) but decided not to and bought it over iTunes just confuses me. Why not just buy a physical copy?

Amen. Especially considering all that DRM shit on iTunes.

But yeah, I second 1565's point that this kind of thing doesn't work for just any band. There many reasons why, but I think one thing that needs to be taken into account is the kind of connection or popularity a band has with or on the Internet. Even though the whole world is online, there are different demographics, cultures, etc. Like, you wouldn't expect Garth Brooks, or Celine Dion to release an Internet album no matter how many of their fans are actually online because...well, shouldn't that be obvious?

What I'm trying to say is that The Offspring has had this kind of ideology for the music on the Internet; now that it's beginning the tendency, why don't they do what they've been wanting since CO1??

This is an extremely good point and good question.

[Little_Miss_1565]

I still think it was funny that In Rainbows shot up to number one for downloads when it was first released to iTunes. The fact that people could've downloaded it for any price they wanted (including nothing, legally) but decided not to and bought it over iTunes just confuses me. Why not just buy a physical copy?

They retired the pay-what-you-like well before the physical release. Like it was mentioned before, marketing ploy.

Well, there are programs like MP3 Doctor which let you amplify the sound quality of an MP3.

Have you ever taken a 72 dpi photo from the web and tried to make it a 40 inch 300 dpi photo? It doesn't work. You can size things down, but you can't create anything high-quality from something that is low-quality.

Amen. Especially considering all that DRM shit on iTunes.

Actually, an increasing number of labels are going DRM free on iTunes. Because Radiohead's deal is through ATO, I don't think theirs is part of the iTunes Plus store, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

[Killboy]

Have you ever taken a 72 dpi photo from the web and tried to make it a 40 inch 300 dpi photo? It doesn't work. You can size things down, but you can't create anything high-quality from something that is low-quality.


No comments...

But c'mon, I really think that if it's downloaded directly from this site, we can be pretty sure the files will be high-quality

[nieh]

They retired the pay-what-you-like well before the physical release. Like it was mentioned before, marketing ploy.

Yeah, but it's not like someone would have to wait and save up money to get an album for free online. It was up there for just shy of two months so I figure if someone wanted just a digital copy of the album then why wouldn't they have gotten it during the time that it was (potentially) free? I just find it weird that after being online on their website for two months, coupled with the physical release, that there were still enough people left over to push it to number one on iTunes.

[Little_Miss_1565]

But c'mon, I really think that if it's downloaded directly from this site, we can be pretty sure the files will be high-quality

Ah, I thought you were talking about the Radiohead album.

Yeah, but it's not like someone would have to wait and save up money to get an album for free online. It was up there for just shy of two months so I figure if someone wanted just a digital copy of the album then why wouldn't they have gotten it during the time that it was (potentially) free? I just find it weird that after being online on their website for two months, coupled with the physical release, that there were still enough people left over to push it to number one on iTunes.

I think the idea was that the fans would use their site to download it in that first phase. Their efforts doing that made them that much more famous for doing it, and it might be that more casual interests downloaded after the fact from iTunes. A lot of it might also have been people who did download during the pay-what-you-like period but were looking to get a higher quality download.

[Killboy]

Ah, I thought you were talking about the Radiohead album.


No, I was just pointing Radiohead as an example...

[Dexter_italy]

I'm "against" the free web album more for a physical thing then concept. The idea is great and I see your point. It would be cool maybe to release b-sides for free on their site, that maybe would be better.
In case of free album and physical I'd buy the physical for sure, because I have my collection, I like the artwork, I like reading the thankings, I like buying it and the feeling you have the first time you open it. And this is said by someone who will download the album as available on the net, but then I'll buy it for sure :D
Anyway I see your point with the naptster thing, but in the co1 time it was coming out and everybody had something to say about it. Don't forget they gave away 1million dollars... I think they already did what they had to...

[Denial, Revisited]

i'm not really a big fan of this whole album online release thing. Honestly even if the band offered it up one their site for a donation or whatever, I still don't think i'd listen to it until the actual physical cd was released.

I'm the same... I want the physical copy for my collection! lol

[Jack-UK]

Well what i'd do is download the music for free, then go out and buy the CD when i get around to it. Everybody wins.

[Tomboy Powerhead]

The Offspring are simply the best, dudeZ. Btw those are internet-i-couldn't-even-get-the-point-of-it albums free? I mean... you do that album and give it for free... sounds like waste of time anyways. And waste of money. When the album is ready, I'd be the first in BG who will get her ass in the store and buy it :D

[Killboy]

The Offspring are simply the best, dudeZ. Btw those are internet-i-couldn't-even-get-the-point-of-it albums free? I mean... you do that album and give it for free... sounds like waste of time anyways. And waste of money. When the album is ready, I'd be the first in BG who will get her ass in the store and buy it :D

Well, I don't think The Offspring loses any money; the one who should be worried about this is their label.
The main profit for The Offspring is their concerts: the more people like the music, the more people they will have there.