Embarrassing Photo?

[leo3375]

I was at Dave's Offspring Page looking around when I found the following photo. I don't know if my eyes are fooling me, or it's the lighting, or my mind is in the gutter or what, but this may be the most embarrassing photo I have ever seen! Prepare to laugh, or be disgusted.

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/86110/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg

[Naz]

Link didnt work for me :(

[leo3375]

Try copy/pasting the URL into your address bar.

[Mr. Noodles]

I was at Dave's Offspring Page looking around when I found the following photo. I don't know if my eyes are fooling me, or it's the lighting, or my mind is in the gutter or what, but this may be the most embarrassing photo I have ever seen! Prepare to laugh, or be disgusted.

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/86110/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg

It won't work!
Anyway, it says "Forbidden"!

[Tired_Of_You]

It works for me.

[Mr. Noodles]

It works for me.
Why does it work for you, and no one else?

[leo3375]

Weird. It works for me just fine.

Okay, here's another link to the photo, this time to the page containing it:

http://public.fotki.com/dvzoffspring/rare_offspring_photos/g_50_12.html

EDIT: Can anyone else see what I think I'm seeing in the photo?

[Tired_Of_You]

Why does it work for you, and no one else?

Don't know. It didn't work the first time I clicked on it, but I tried a second time and it worked.

[Mr. Noodles]

Weird. It works for me just fine.

Okay, here's another link to the photo, this time to the page containing it:

http://public.fotki.com/dvzoffspring/rare_offspring_photos/g_50_12.html

EDIT: Can anyone else see what I think I'm seeing in the photo?
Know I can veiw the photo, but what's so embarassing about it?

[Mr. Noodles]

EDIT: Can anyone else see what I think I'm seeing in the photo?

I can't! .

[leo3375]

Like I said, maybe it's the lighting in the photo, or my mind is in the gutter, but doesn't Dexter seem a little… excited?

[Mr. Noodles]

Like I said, maybe it's the lighting in the photo, or my mind is in the gutter, but doesn't Dexter seem a little… excited?
You mean that he's holding onto his ass?

Oh..... Now I get it!

[leo3375]

You mean that he's holding onto his ass?

Oh..... Now I get it!

Umm… no. It looks worse than that.

[Mr. Noodles]

Umm… no. It looks worse than that.
Then, no!
I don't see it.

[leo3375]

Look a little right of center and note the folds on the jeans.

[Mr. Noodles]

You mean that his groin is sticking out a little bit?

[leo3375]

You mean that his groin is sticking out a little bit?

A little?!

After looking at your profile, you have a lot to learn. This is your first lesson.

[offspringbaby2004]

Oh come on you guys lol. I am sure it is just the way his jeans are. :( Poor Dexter

~mandy~

[Mr. Noodles]

Damn, I need glasses.

[Naz]

Im laughing at his jeans... they look kewl yo

[Mr. Noodles]

I don't find it that embarassing.

[leo3375]

After comparing this one to a photo I have taken at a similar angle, in a similar pose, I noticed a difference. And for some reason I can't stop laughing!

[offspringbaby2004]

After comparing this one to a photo I have taken at a similar angle, in a similar pose, I noticed a difference. And for some reason I can't stop laughing!


Do you like looking at Dexters crotch when you look at pictures? haha

~mandy~

[leo3375]

Do you like looking at Dexters crotch when you look at pictures? haha

~mandy~

Look, I'm a young woman of 23 years old. I'm at an age where my mind likes to go in the gutter and stay there. Plus, as a graphic designer, I tend to notice subleties of things a lot more. If I notice something that, to me, seems out of place, I focus on it, perhaps too much. Also, I have been dating someone for 6 years so I've learned a thing or two about men.

[Skate Rat 19]

You never know some hot chick might have been flashing the band at the moment.

[pretty_fly_white_guy858]

Know I can veiw the photo, but what's so embarassing about it?
Yeah its Dexter singing. He does that all the time

[nameless]

Weird. It works for me just fine.

Okay, here's another link to the photo, this time to the page containing it:

http://public.fotki.com/dvzoffspring/rare_offspring_photos/g_50_12.html

EDIT: Can anyone else see what I think I'm seeing in the photo?


didnt notice the first time, but i hate to say it but i think i know now, dont wanna know how you noticed it in the first place!

[pretty_fly_white_guy858]

Ok now I see the funny in the picture. lol.

[OffspringInOz]

but jeans are like that alot, they just seem to bulgle out. alot of zippers do that

[code_blue]

"OMG DEXTER HAS A BONER OMG OMG OMG!"


... he's probably just wearing jeans that are baggy in the crotch area or something. either that or he was thinking about leo.

[Dominator]

Wait a second... are you suggesting that Dexter has a penis??? Unbelieveable!!! :tard:

[leo3375]

I wanna apologize right now. I made this post with the intent of having a laugh at an ambiguous photo that was open to interpretation. I'm sorry if it got out of hand and people took it too seriously. So please, don't think too negatively of me, even though I'm an older fan. I must reiterate that I have no coital interests in the band, and I'm pretty sure they don't see me in that way, either. This was simply intended to be nothing more than juvenile humor.

[samr]

that pants thing always happens to me.
It's awesome because random girls on the street see it and take me to the back room.

[Kitten]

I was at Dave's Offspring Page looking around when I found the following photo. I don't know if my eyes are fooling me, or it's the lighting, or my mind is in the gutter or what, but this may be the most embarrassing photo I have ever seen! Prepare to laugh, or be disgusted.

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/86110/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg

Don't worry, I don't think you are the only one with your mind in the gutter. I laughed by the way.
But look on the bright side, when he said he was excited to play at that gig, it looks like he really means it. ;)

[Gordie]

I wanna apologize right now. I made this post with the intent of having a laugh at an ambiguous photo that was open to interpretation. I'm sorry if it got out of hand and people took it too seriously. So please, don't think too negatively of me, even though I'm an older fan. I must reiterate that I have no coital interests in the band, and I'm pretty sure they don't see me in that way, either. This was simply intended to be nothing more than juvenile humor.

haha dont worry about it.. it was just something to laugh at, i mean i laughed at it too.. dexters got a boner, its funny.. and for those that too it too seriously.. well thats their problem if they find that a little crude humor is too much for them..

[Obie2trice]

Wait a second... are you suggesting that Dexter has a penis??? Unbelieveable!!! :tard:

that homepage in your profile is too fucking sick

[4eh]

it works for me! that thing what you were talking about is about dexter?

[4eh]

lol, sorry i've missed previous posts

[Lithuanian Offspring]

I don't get it. There is nothing wrong. or I am not as retarded as you.

[Lithuanian Offspring]

You sick bastard. I don't think that is what you think it is. Its probably his wallet or something like that. That would be really embarrassing.

[«_ºßäߥ_Ðëvilº_»]

Like I said, maybe it's the lighting in the photo, or my mind is in the gutter, but doesn't Dexter seem a little… excited?

Yes. Lol. I do.

[Jake]

so dexters got a big dick, wats the big deal? ;)
you guys are weird :p

[Kathy]

1. Dexter was exciting...
2. Or He has a big dick..

What do you think?..1 oooooooooooor 2???

[Embodude2004]

the link is broken

[Manic subsidal]

for god's sake, people who can't view the image, here you go -

http://img123.exs.cx/img123/2256/g5012vi3xa.jpg

anyways, heh yeah that's pretty funny. I bet they were singing me and my old lady at the moment.

[The Disclaimer]

let's see... i was there, in the show... and there were some girls with very little clothes on.. and trying to get everyone to notice, see the big screen with noodles on it.. it might have been showing any of this girls just moments before...

[Sir Didymus]

He could wear cool jeans and expensive clothes, but he outcools every single one of us on here because he's in a famous spiggin' rock band.

Anyway, geekyness is all the rage nowadays, look at all these pseudo-intellectual specs flying around!

And yeah Leo3375, you're not alone. I noticed it straightaway ;) Oh shit, you've made me obsess over him now!

[Obie2trice]

what a picture :D

[SkunkIt]

That's not embarrasing, this is! hahahahahahahahahaha! :D
http://roycantor.com/pics/blogger/inflatable.jpg

[dirtybird]

why were you looking there in the first place though?

[Kitten]

It's actually difficult not to notice, given the angle of the photo and all.

[Jojan]

http://public.fotki.com/dvzoffspring/rare_offspring_photos/g_50_11.html Dexter has a boobie.

[SkunkIt]

I like this one! :D
http://images6.fotki.com/v82/free/1ba87/3/364832/1290291/9-vi.jpg

[Chrijs]

lol, very easy. is in the Quilmes Rock Festival 2004 in Argentina.. :)

[Manic subsidal]

http://public.fotki.com/dvzoffspring/rare_offspring_photos/g_50_11.html Dexter has a boobie.

lmao now that's a embarrasing pic :)

[Natasha]

U guys are funneee.

[leo3375]

http://public.fotki.com/dvzoffspring/rare_offspring_photos/g_50_11.html Dexter has a boobie.

If you look at Dexter himself in that one, no. But look at the image on the monitor, then yeah, I can see it. Still not as bad as half a stiffy, though.

[dexterisMYman]

how the hell is that embarasing? of course he has a boobie, he fat and sexy

[tle_punk]

Haha, I haven't been in this forum for ages.....

This thread is hilarious.

[Killb0y]

http://public.fotki.com/dvzoffspring/rare_offspring_photos/g_50_11.html Dexter has a boobie.

Nice bass, reeeeally nice

[leo3375]

Haha, I haven't been in this forum for ages.....

This thread is hilarious.

Glad to know someone appreciates juvenile humor and sees that this isn't serious.

EDIT: tle_punk, your avatar looks like a messed-up Davey Havok.

[SkunkIt]

:( I can't see it

Neither can I, but I think it was a picture of Greg K! :D

[UgLy_eLf]

He's not hard, thats just the way his jeans are, if he had an erection, and we're assuming he's an adequate size, he'd fill the jeans up to the top button of his pants.

[Black Dragon]

Like I said, maybe it's the lighting in the photo, or my mind is in the gutter, but doesn't Dexter seem a little… excited?

YES, i've seen him in Argentina, I'm from there, he's AWESOME. Dexter get's Exited only in MY COUNTRY, there you have fucking assholes :cool: jajajjaaa

[cantrepeat4385]

so what he has a boner. prolly saw a hot chick in the crowd :D

ive got a boner right now to :D

[Offspring-Fanatic]

there are so many posts about this...

leave Dexter alone!!

im pretty sure it was something wrong with the zipper or the position, like when i wear boardshorts, the velcro doesnt work correctly, so it sticks out a bit.

[ruroken]

Bahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[undesiredhope17]

ok... why are people so obsessed over a supposed boner Dexter has? why not noodles, atom, or greg? Knowing certain members, pics of Noodles with a "boner" would erupt into one of the "omg noodles iz gay!" type threads

[ruroken]

I almost never visit this forum.
But, anyhow, he's in concert, and he gets aroused? bff-BAHAHAHA!!!!

[Rancid_Guyxxx]

For the last fucking time. He does not have an erection. Maybe a little fold in his jeans (happens quite often) but definetly not an erection. Goddamn

[Manic subsidal]

Maybe he doesn't even have a penis?

You never know... I bet Dexter was struggling on writing a new song and his wife kept on bugging him about wanting to have sex, so Dexter was getting annoyed and couldn't write his song so he cut off his own weiner. Now his wife can't bug him about sex anymore! Wow..

[ruroken]

i don't care if he shit himself. the point is that it's embarressing to him and funny to most.

[undesiredhope17]

Maybe he doesn't even have a penis?

You never know... I bet Dexter was struggling on writing a new song and his wife kept on bugging him about wanting to have sex, so Dexter was getting annoyed and couldn't write his song so he cut off his own weiner. Now his wife can't bug him about sex anymore! Wow..
he could write a song about that... :D

[Telekinesis]

there are so many posts about this...

leave Dexter alone!!

im pretty sure it was something wrong with the zipper or the position, like when i wear boardshorts, the velcro doesnt work correctly, so it sticks out a bit.

LMFAO! That hppens to my freind with the velcro! It's even funnier coz she's a girl! I only metioned coz he said board shors not jeans, he he it's actually a board skirt that my friend has

[Bacterium]

I totally agree with Rancid_guyxxx. Jeans look like that, alright?? everyone here that reallt thinks that "he's excited" should go look up what a boner actually looks like! many of you people here are acting so naive..! I'm scared!

[sneedo]

my friend Kris always talks about how dexter's package looks so big in jeans, :o

[neocon58]

how do you crack a boner whilst singing and walking around a stage with music blasting your ears?

[leo3375]

This was funny when I initially created this thread. Now that we've all had a good laugh it's time to let this one die, or for Tijs or 1565 to close it.

[ashtray_girl_1]

delete this thread now

[IdiotOfTheDay]

Hahah, this was damn funny, props for making a good thread, Leo! It is probably just a fold in his jeans though...
This thread reminds me of a conversation me and my friend had during band....
My friend: "Hey Nicole, look up at Mr. Carrier's jeans." (Mr. Carrier's the band teacher)
Me: -is momentarily clueless- "Uh...what about them?"
My friend: "It looks like he has a boner!"
Me: "That's nice Alina...." 0.o
My friend: "Gavin has a boner too, but it's sexy."
Me: 0.o
By the way, Gavin is one of our classmates. He plays trumpet. Alina and I play French horn.

[sneedo]

how do you crack a boner whilst singing and walking around a stage with music blasting your ears?


cracking a boner sounds painful

[ShadowPyro]

how do you crack a boner whilst singing and walking around a stage with music blasting your ears?
He could have seen a really hot girl in the crowd.

[Rancid_Guyxxx]

He could have seen a really hot girl in the crowd.

If he gets a boner the minute he sees a hot girl he really has no control.

[Jackish]

If he gets a boner the minute he sees a hot girl he really has no control.

This whole thread had me rolfing like a little shit. Good work all! :D

[darko]

aww your mind maybe in the gutter but its looking up at the stars!

[Telekinesis]

Oh so when she makes it it's funny but when I do it..

[queen of chaos]

I couldn't see it before you said it, but I think it's just his jeans, man...

[Marit]

Oh so when she makes it it's funny but when I do it..

Nothing beats the original, you know?

[Conspiracy of One]

LInk didnt work.........

[LukyItalion74]

how the hell is that embarasing? of course he has a boobie, he fat and sexy

I thought this was funnier than the picture it self...

[Telekinesis]

Bump. Hello, thought I might bump this thread coz it's cool. He he sorry I just had to do it ;)

[pretty_fly_white_guy858]

This thread has been made like 3 or 4 times. But its still kinda funny :p

[Telekinesis]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/Luceh/bass.jpg

Dexter has a boner in this picture too :D God he's a such a horny bastard, lol

[duct tape]

Wow, ive just kinda skimmed through this a little bit, but when I got to this last page in saw tht pic, I so jsut spit my drink every were....im mean yeah dex is so beating some of my ex's down south *cough cough*

[punker]

hahahahahahaha LMFAO
I've never seen this, is so damn funny, in the last pic, looks like dexter had socks in there LOL

[offspring_freak_3]

dude, dexter have to control himself, have kids on the stage :eek: lol

[lost_nvrfound]

how do you crack a boner whilst singing and walking around a stage with music blasting your ears?

probably, i'm assuming, quite painfully...:D

i saw the second picture and almost fell over laughing... sigh...

i love it when pants do that... especially mine... cause i'm a girl and all... :D

...poor dexter... always being accused of a boner... but i must say, its fucking hilarious... this must be like the tenth picture i've seen where someone has made that comment... even though this is not the first time i've seen this particular thread

[duct tape]

I have know problem wit his *cough* boner...yeah yeah so wha call me a perv get over it

[Telekinesis]

Wow, ive just kinda skimmed through this a little bit, but when I got to this last page in saw tht pic, I so jsut spit my drink every were....im mean yeah dex is so beating some of my ex's down south *cough cough*

by the last picture do ya mean the one I posted? with Greg next to him....oh no...maybe Greg made Dexter a bit too horny...ha ha! joke, I'm not accusing either of them of being gay, even if they are, so what? they still rock, oh by the way everyone I love Noodles now he is the best guitarist ever, I can like refer to him to pwn my guitar teacher coz he sayd that no guitarist ever looks at their fingers while they play but we all know Noodles does so I just pwn3d Mr.Lewindowski, lol

[lost_nvrfound]

by the last picture do ya mean the one I posted? with Greg next to him....oh no...maybe Greg made Dexter a bit too horny...ha ha! joke, I'm not accusing either of them of being gay, even if they are, so what? they still rock, oh by the way everyone I love Noodles now he is the best guitarist ever, I can like refer to him to pwn my guitar teacher coz he sayd that no guitarist ever looks at their fingers while they play but we all know Noodles does so I just pwn3d Mr.Lewindowski, lol
he said that!?!? we here at the offspring forums and most everyone else can definately say that that is pure bullshit...i would like to refer to the great of all greats... angus young... who i must sadly admit can totally kick noodles' ass at guitar skills(but noodles is still the best)... he very often looks at his fingers and he is a legend...http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/angus-young-sg.jpg

[Telekinesis]

I know it's bullshit! he kept yelling at me in hid funny Polish accent (not trying to be rascist but he sounds hilarious) and he's like "You look at the guitar players on the stage and their not looking at their fingers" then he started playing guitar and looking at his fingers really closely in an over exageratted way and he always gets pissed at me for looking at my fingers, also he tells me tabs are for "un-educated" people and I have to learn to read the stave, I did clarenet for like 3 years and I'm so happy they have developed a new form of notating music because the stave sucks coz it's like diffrent for every instrument, it sucks. Mr.L always yells at me but I always end up laughing coz of his accent but he's never really too serious he normally just sounds upset coz I keep fucking up all the time, but thanks dude I'll mention Angus You was it? to my guitar teacher, I might also mention Noodles

[ashtray_girl_1]

fuck...this thread is damned! just when i forget about it, it comes back to life!!
btw, are there any pics of other band members with a boner? this way it seems like dex is the only one who still gets a boner!:cool:

[lost_nvrfound]

I know it's bullshit! he kept yelling at me in hid funny Polish accent (not trying to be rascist but he sounds hilarious) and he's like "You look at the guitar players on the stage and their not looking at their fingers" then he started playing guitar and looking at his fingers really closely in an over exageratted way and he always gets pissed at me for looking at my fingers, also he tells me tabs are for "un-educated" people and I have to learn to read the stave, I did clarenet for like 3 years and I'm so happy they have developed a new form of notating music because the stave sucks coz it's like diffrent for every instrument, it sucks. Mr.L always yells at me but I always end up laughing coz of his accent but he's never really too serious he normally just sounds upset coz I keep fucking up all the time, but thanks dude I'll mention Angus You was it? to my guitar teacher, I might also mention Noodlesangus young... he's the guitarist for ACDC... your guitar teacher should know who he is...

[lost_nvrfound]

fuck...this thread is damned! just when i forget about it, it comes back to life!!
btw, are there any pics of other band members with a boner? this way it seems like dex is the only one who still gets a boner!:cool:i have yet to see one... i guess the other guys' clothes just fit better... or maybe the common peoples are far more obsessed with dexter holland...

[offspring_freak_3]

fuck...this thread is damned! just when i forget about it, it comes back to life!!
btw, are there any pics of other band members with a boner? this way it seems like dex is the only one who still gets a boner!:cool:
just search for a pic from the lead singer by avenged sevenfold on warped tour and you will see :p

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[adRi]

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/188d8/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg

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[duct tape]

Theres no image, omg is that suppose to happen??? Holy shit....nooooooooooooo....I must see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(sorry for the hystria)

[uvutuy]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/uvutuy/d-man.jpg

[Telekinesis]

The rest of that picture isn't showing, I don't know if it's the same on everyone elses computer, also ummm..other dude,forgot your name, yeah i meant to write Angus Young but my typing has become faster which has resulted in alot of typos, lol, sorry about that but yeah I'll tell mr.L about him, only if he brings it up again though, don't want another fight, wait last week was my last lesson, dammit

[Telekinesis]

Oh the pictures showing now, ha ha, Dexter's got another boner, nah I think it's just he's jeans in that one, probably coz he's walking and his jeans would go all weird around the crotch area when he walks, or something, meh I dunno

[uvutuy]

The rest of that picture isn't showing, I don't know if it's the same on everyone elses computer, also ummm..other dude,forgot your name, yeah i meant to write Angus Young but my typing has become faster which has resulted in alot of typos, lol, sorry about that but yeah I'll tell mr.L about him, only if he brings it up again though, don't want another fight, wait last week was my last lesson, dammit
i couldnt find the full photo so thats all folks

[uvutuy]

i dont know what you guys think of this photo but some people see it, i dont know
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b224/uvutuy/008-vi.jpg

[duct tape]

I think it jsut makes him look like he has boobies

now this is emarassing:
(back stage at a offspring concert in spain)
http://www.photos.jakesoffspring.com/data/media/19/A%20couple%20of%20Bullfighters%20Backstage%20at%20 the%20show.jpg

[bd007h]

Some girls just don't understand that just because there's a bulge in their pants doesn't mean the person has a boner. Sometimes it's just a crease in the crotch area of their jeans.

[Back in Black]

thats funny. Dexter have a boner on stage. lol lol lol lol lol

[uvutuy]

Girls just don't understand that just because there's a bulge in their pants doesn't mean the person has a boner. Sometimes it's just a crease in the crotch area of their jeans.
i know that its just some one sent me a pm to send the pic here

[duct tape]

Some girls just don't understand that just because there's a bulge in their pants doesn't mean the person has a boner. Sometimes it's just a crease in the crotch area of their jeans.

Ah yes but we like to think it s a boner, exspecially when its dexter were assuming this about.

[bd007h]

i know that its just some one sent me a pm to send the pic here

as if they couldn't post it themselves?

[uvutuy]

as if they couldn't post it themselves?
the person could be stupid i dont know i deleted it straight after i read it so i dont know who it is

[StupidDumbShitGoddamMofo]

But look on the bright side, when he said he was excited to play at that gig, it looks like he really means it. ;)

Oh, yes...
It's an Argentina show, too.
We make Dexter //really// excited. xD

[offspringbecker]

As the Webmaster of Dave's Offspring Page, I never knew that picture would raise some controversy. I find this post really funny. How is everyone doing? Trying to get that interview with Ron Welty done. Hopefully I'll interview Dexter when the new album comes out.

Webmaster Dave

I was at Dave's Offspring Page looking around when I found the following photo. I don't know if my eyes are fooling me, or it's the lighting, or my mind is in the gutter or what, but this may be the most embarrassing photo I have ever seen! Prepare to laugh, or be disgusted.

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/86110/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg

[pretty_fly_white_guy858]

Who in the hell brought this thread back

[The Goth Guy]

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/2e209/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg



Hahahahah! Ok either Dexter has a terribly small erection or his pants are too big and his belt is messing with his pants.

[Telekinesis]

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/2e209/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg



Hahahahah! Ok either Dexter has a terribly small erection or his pants are too big and his belt is messing with his pants.

dude I dunno if my computer is stuffed or if it's happened to everyone but the picture isn't showing

[offspring_freak_3]

^^ same here. i cant see it :(

[offspring_freak_3]

haha i can see it now, it was posted before in the first page. u can see it here http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/2e209/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg

[Drum Goddess]

http://images8.fotki.com/v119/free/2e209/3/364832/1290291/g_50_12-vi.jpg



Hahahahah! Ok either Dexter has a terribly small erection or his pants are too big and his belt is messing with his pants.
I think it might just be a bunch in his pants. But he could be happy.

[bd007h]

this thread needs to die.

[offspring_freak_3]

indeed. it doesnt funny anymore. poor dexter...

PS: i still think its only his pants :rolleyes:

[ashtray_girl_1]

where are mods when you need them!? poor dexter, shut up once and for all about his "boner"! please!:D

[Nirushika6789]

someone close this thread....
it isnt even funny anymore...jeez

[Rufus]

^^ I agree