Sarah Palin is McCain's Running Mate

[Moose]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p1Wc2NFa3w



...yaaa

[XYlophonetreeZ]

Wait... and you're saying that the Obama campaign is responsible for charges of sexism because it complimented Palin? WTF? The false sexism charges by the right were related to saying Palin was not up to the job (because the only reason people could be saying that was because she was a woman). I think the campaign's done it right - praise her, sit back and let her hang herself with her own rope.

...I need to stop posting here when I'm drunk. I think the Obama campaign has mostly done a good job, actually, I just think they missed out on an opportunity to criticize the "community organizer" line. Fortunately, that line outraged enough people that it's been ridiculed quite sufficiently in popular culture. It's still a bit ridiculous for Biden to go so far as compliment it, but whatever.

And I think that in a really weird, roundabout, unpredictable way, the initial cries of sexism had something to do with their strategy of not going after her. I think that, had the expectation been set early on for her to take some heat, just from the nature of being in the race, critical behavior towards her might have been treated like less of a big deal later. It's funny how this is all totally irrelevant now (since she's facing tons of criticism now from all directions) yet I felt the need to bring it up anyway when I was drunk. I expressed myself really poorly.

Maureen Dowd wrote a column a couple of days ago about how Obama was a pussy in the debate and should have gone after McCain more aggressively. I didn't really know what debate she was watching. I thought Obama looked better than McCain in many respects without making personal attacks.

Sometimes I still want to side with the opinion that nice-guy politics is never going to work. People like to say, hey, it got him past Hillary, but it really didn't. He was ahead early and her sleazy politics almost propelled her to an improbable comeback (remember how she won New Hampshire?) However, he's enjoying his largest leads in the polls in quite some time, so I'd love to have my doubts erased. If he and Biden perform well in the remaining debates, then I'm pretty confident he's got this in the bag. I would mention the bailout, but I seriously doubt anything could transpire that would make Obama look worse than McCain already has.

[jacknife737]

If Jack Cafferty wanted me, i would let him have me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

[randman21]

^Damn.

Well, only one more day.

[ilovellamas]

So, I think it kinda sucks that the moderator for tomorrow night clearly has some bias toward Obama. I mean, it works out in my favor, cause I'd love to see ol' Sarah get chewed up and spit out tomorrow... but at the same time, I'd like to see a real debate where, if she sounds like a moron, it's actually her fault. I dunno... I'd just think they'd pick a more neutral person as moderator.

[jacknife737]

So, I think it kinda sucks that the moderator for tomorrow night clearly has some bias toward Obama. I mean, it works out in my favor, cause I'd love to see ol' Sarah get chewed up and spit out tomorrow... but at the same time, I'd like to see a real debate where, if she sounds like a moron, it's actually her fault. I dunno... I'd just think they'd pick a more neutral person as moderator.

Although i agree (i also really like Jim Lehrer, he did a great job in the presidential debate and had hoped he would be doing this one as well), i think she may hit Biden with some particularly hard questions to throw off any allegations of bias.

Nevertheless that debate should be a riot, because both Biden and Palin are prone to gaffes. Also, Palin is a half-wit. Unfortunately, i'm going to have to watch it the next day on cnn.com since it's at the same time as the Canadian English election debate.

[Little_Miss_1565]

The difference between Palin's and Biden's gaffes is that Biden's are generally because is is a straight-talker to a fault. He'll tell you exactly what is on his mind regardless of the political implications. I think that's kinda rad. Palin's are because she doesn't know anything about runnin' no country.

Cafferty is a riot. I'm looking forward to it.

[Moose]

The difference between Palin's and Biden's gaffes is that Biden's are generally because is is a straight-talker to a fault. He'll tell you exactly what is on his mind regardless of the political implications. I think that's kinda rad. Palin's are because she doesn't know anything about runnin' no country.

Cafferty is a riot. I'm looking forward to it.


ya...this is a classine one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB5VPvT7sFo


the bias of everyone on this board to try and protect the idiots they are going to elect on either side is starting to become funny...


and then these...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRV5Y1JCGRI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytIsTX_WNjo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svjnb3UqLbg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUA8ehkjkHI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvZpp9QJRME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XberX_t-WvI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VAzOIT4Ef8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0lVOJfZ3jk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTBZHf6WyG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM537BgCsMg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFag_BXhG6s


...ya...clearly biden's mistakes (who knows how many more there are,) are from him being a straight-shooter...not because he is a rambling idiot.

[wheelchairman]

the bias of everyone on this board to try and protect the idiots they are going to elect on either side is starting to become funny...



What?

And you really aren't one to talk about bias on this board. (Well one, good job in realizing that posters have political opinions that they throw out there). But two, you also have a bias. Why should a politics debate forum have a non-bias? What is this strange accusation you are throwing about?

[Jebus]

I'm confused. Mooses should have a natural bias against Sarah Palin.

[Moose]

it's moose...and of course we all have bias, but im saying to actually twist things or just be totally blind to certain things because of that bias.

it isnt that hard to understand...you see it everyday when people are just totally out of touch with certain things because of their bias.

[sKratch]

I see what he's saying and I agree. Basically people on both sides act equally ridiculous in a lot of ways.

[Little_Miss_1565]

I see what he's saying and I agree. Basically people on both sides act equally ridiculous in a lot of ways.

I agree too, but I fail to see anything ridiculous about what I said regarding Biden's "gaffes." And I wish my bias made me 'out of touch' about certain things regarding McCain/Palin. If I had been doing shots at the bar last night every time she said "nucular," I'd be in the hospital right now.

[JohnnyNemesis]

Sarah Palin's habit of turning super cutesy whenever she can't answer/doesn't want to answer a question is so transparent that I can't believe a grown person can do it and get away with it anywhere, much less on national television in a Vice Presidential debate. It's also kind of infuriating considering the feminist (or, rather, anti-feminist) implications and effects.

I expected Joe Biden to decimate her, and he kinda didn't, but I think he was still very good last night. And it's also kinda funny/extremely sad that the strongest thing the Republican party can say about last night's debate is that Palin didn't embarrass herself.

ps. Palin reminds me more of Bobby's mom on Bobby's World than anyone else. But South Carolina is definitely in the mix. I still think she's super hot, which, yes, makes me a raging hypocrite considering how upset I get over what (I feel) she does to feminism with her cutesy and malleable bullshit.


If I had been doing shots at the bar last night every time she said "nucular," I'd be in the hospital right now.

And you'd be dead twenty times over if you took even half a shot every time:

-Palin said the word "energy" (full shot if it was in response to a question that had absolutely nothing to do with energy)
-Palin out and out ignored a question and refused to answer. (full shot if Biden actually answered a question Palin ignored)
-Palin used her hockey mom voice. (you're probably dead 5 minutes in)
-Biden presented Palin with a chance to explain how the McCain/Palin administration would be different from Bush/Cheney, and she refused to even touch it.
-Palin tried to link Biden to McCain in some cute, passive-aggressive way.

[randman21]

ps. Palin reminds me more of Bobby's mom on Bobby's World than anyone else.

Ha. Someone else had just said that to me. Seriously, is that either an Alaskan or Idahoan accent?

p.s. I'm finding it impossible to decipher that huge grinny look Biden kept giving Palin. It was almost giddy.

[Rag Doll]

What about every time she said "maverick"?

[JohnnyNemesis]

If you did that one, you wouldn't have enough booze to continue the game. :(

[nieh]

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7827/palinxy5.jpg

[jacknife737]

*pic*

Hahaha, nice, thanks for that.

[JohnnyNemesis]

I enjoyed her Political Views immensely.

[Moose]

when bored...youtube can be fun...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_597487

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1BOj6kTPgE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbkEAR2GgiA&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_324911

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBRIsCkGQ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6rMSd-JRuk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-_HlpZ8azA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBFP-HT33oo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related


http://www.opensecrets.org/

...mccain may not be the best presidential candidate, but certain things just dont add up right with obama...


this is funny though haha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdKL2LW1xYM&feature=related

[coke_a_holic]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/10/sarah-palin-porn-film.php

Exclusive First Look: The Sarah Palin Porn Flick

So the company that placed an ad on Craiglist seeking a Sarah Palin lookalike for a porn shoot? Hustler! A spokesperson for founder Larry Flynt confirms that the film has already been shot, but wouldn't release the name.

Flynt did, however, provide Radar with a copy of the script. (For what it's worth, the working title appears to be Riding Pipeline.) Here's the first scene. [CAUTION: GRAPHIC CONTENT]

This might be the greatest thing I've ever heard of.

[That_Guy91]

This is an epic first scene.

PALIN: Are you asking me if I know what a morning-after pill is? Because I totally do! I'll get back to ya with specifics.

[ilovellamas]

Roseanne talking about Palin and Republicans. Good stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXdhywzo1NA&feature=related

[wheelchairman]

It annoys me when celebrities talk about politics. Usually because they're idiots. Although I liked her little stand up gig in Michael Moore's free film. (Slacker Uprising, the film is alright, it's kinda boring but there is good stuff in between.)

[Jakebert]

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7840/palinju9qd4.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/palinju9qd4.gif/1/w300.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img88/palinju9qd4.gif/1/)

[Not Ozymandias]

I'm confused. Mooses should have a natural bias against Sarah Palin.
it's moose
Jesusfuckingchrist.

[Not Ozymandias]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/10/sarah-palin-porn-film.php

Exclusive First Look: The Sarah Palin Porn Flick



This might be the greatest thing I've ever heard of.
The real thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIgQ4VMPfyY) is even better.

[jacknife737]

The real thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIgQ4VMPfyY) is even better.

That's hot.

[cindevelle]

Keep in mind w/ all of the Bush "Bashing"---Congress, which is mostly all Democrats, are the ones that have more say than Bush. Bush is basically a "figure" or the Speaker of Bad News for the U.S. & only has little power of Veto. He cannot make most of the decisions....Congress will always have the FINAL SAY!!! So let's think about TRUE POLITICS when we talk about all of the BAD things BUSH has done!!

[sKratch]

Keep in mind w/ all of the Bush "Bashing"---Congress, which is mostly all Democrats, are the ones that have more say than Bush. Bush is basically a "figure" or the Speaker of Bad News for the U.S. & only has little power of Veto. He cannot make most of the decisions....Congress will always have the FINAL SAY!!! So let's think about TRUE POLITICS when we talk about all of the BAD things BUSH has done!!

Democrats are even 49-49 in the senate and are given a 51-49 lead from 2 independents that caucus with them. If the president vetoes a bill, both houses have to override it with two thirds majority. How is that "little power", and how does congress get the last word?

[Moose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V-bxx7OyZ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtuXd-yD2vI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5XxXm8wPE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxzgn4fj4vw&feature=related





what ya think?

[mrconeman]

Jesus in Heaven. I've kept away from the American Presedential running stuff for a little while, I'd already decided Obama>McCain and then just lost touch, but Holy Christ. I've been checking out Biden & Palin, isn't everyone in America just jumping straight on the Obama ticket just to keep this batshit insane wench from the most poweful position in the world???

Honestly, McCain is fucking old, he wont last a theoretical two terms, if even one, seriously a vote for him is effectively a vote for Palin which puts Palin, someone I can only describe as politically retarted, in the Whitehouse. Aren't you people fucking terrified?

[Moose]

Honestly, McCain is fucking old, he wont last a theoretical two terms, if even one, seriously a vote for him is effectively a vote for Palin which puts Palin, someone I can only describe as politically retarted, in the Whitehouse. Aren't you people fucking terrified?



I'm not sure if I'm more scared of that, or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-45A6I-N5I&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaABV1CWXug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQtTuO8Bzj8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZs4WcvpUlY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgE04JqyV2Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V-bxx7OyZ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtuXd-yD2vI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5XxXm8wPE&feature=related


just look into it...look it up...you got an inexperienced doof in sarah palin for vice president...then you got an inexperienced guy in barak obama who has a lot of shady and odd connections with bad people advising him, and hes running for president...

...it's almost lose-lose...you have to hope that if mccain does get elected, he reverts to the 2000 form of john mccain and survives the whole 4 years of his presidency.

[jacknife737]

You know Moose, aside from poorly edited youtube videos, there are other places to get your political news.

[Omni]

yeah, but that's just about the only place he can see Loose Change and Zeitgeist.

[Moose]

i just do it out of boredom...it kills time...

...and the comments are funny.

[Dive]

http://onlinerock.com/fans/dive//debate.jpg

[Vera]

yeah, but that's just about the only place he can see Loose Change and Zeitgeist.

LOL.

I only just now heard/read about Kathleen Parker, a conservative columnist who DARED speak against Palin: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=

And got some serious flack for it, as heard here on the Colbert Report: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/14/video-kathleen-parker-on-colbert/

I find it ever-so-ironic that conservatives would tell her "your mother should've aborted you". Oh, so abortion is a-okay as long as it's people who might eventually end up voicing negative opinions about Republican VP candidates? WTF.

[DexterWannabe]

I like Sarah Palin.

[nieh]

http://www.palinaspresident.us/

[Not Ozymandias]

I like Sarah Palin.
I like imaging you being in a burn ward. It's nice to like things. :)

[Moose]

finally...someone actually said obama is a socialist...now if he just admits it we can actually vote on what kind of america we want.


...and yes...he is a socialist.

[wheelchairman]

...If you're a moron.....

[Moose]

During his NAACP speech earlier this month, Sen. Obama repeated the term at least four times. "I've been working my entire adult life to help build an America where economic justice is being served," he said at the group's 99th annual convention in Cincinnati.

And as president, "we'll ensure that economic justice is served," he asserted. "That's what this election is about."
__________________________________________________ _______
In his latest memoir he shares that he'd like to "recast" the welfare net that FDR and LBJ cast while rolling back what he derisively calls the "winner-take-all" market economy that Ronald Reagan reignited (with record gains in living standards for all).
__________________________________________________ ______

A careful reading of Obama's first memoir, "Dreams From My Father," reveals that his childhood mentor up to age 18 — a man he cryptically refers to as "Frank" — was none other than the late communist Frank Marshall Davis, who fled Chicago after the FBI and Congress opened investigations into his "subversive," "un-American activities."

http://www.military-money-matters.com/barack-obamas-stealth-socialism.html
__________________________________________________ ________

According to the Associated Press story, Senator Obama gave the little girl a brief explanation of his plan for universal health insurance coverage and improved education. Then he explained his view that the wealthy should pay the expenses of people who are not wealthy:

"We've got to make sure that people who have more money help the people who have less money," Sen. Obama said. "If you had a whole pizza, and your friend had no pizza, would you give him a slice?"

http://www.extremeink.com/awtk/2007/11/barack-obama-explains-socialism.html
__________________________________________________ ________

i'm not going to bother to mention the obvious stuff of his past associations and what he has said and offered recently...you cna look that up or know it already...but here is some more stuff if you dont like to read too much...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOI8qyxC2qw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T21AUDoJtx0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqnLpPTFco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLlxxWaJZM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLeamM7Jkk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PePbtEABzGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axRvqGBpNNE (talkin to college students)


...just because you call people a moron, doesn't make their comments not true...you can at least admit he has socialist ideas...or at least reply with evidence that he doesn't...he does want to change the fundamental ideas of america.

[wheelchairman]

I don't have to disprove your stupid claim because it's stupid.

Calling Obama a socialist requires two things of you
1. Having absolutely no idea what a socialist is
2. Being an idiot.

His healthcare plan functions on the same basis that the progressive income tax does. It's not socialist, all western countries (or almost all) tax that way. And most redistribute healthcare that way without being socialist.

His past associations aren't relevant and are not proof of anything.

Economic justice is an ambiguous term, you're reading what you want to read in it. It doesn't mean anything.

So you are claiming that FDR and LBJ are socialists? Seriously?

You want to prove he's a socialist? Find something substantial, not moronic loose associations to things that are vaguely communist if you squint your eyes and are illiterate. For example if Obama said "I want to remove the bourgeoisie from power and institute a dictatorship of the proletariat" well then, I'd look pretty stupid. If Obama said "I want to get rid of the market-economy and create a planned economy" you'd be on to something.

But you've got nothing but an inability to critically view information that is put in front of you.

[XYlophonetreeZ]

Moose, have you ever once in your sad life attempted to look up your information from a neutral source? It's common sense that you can't learn anything if you only pay attention to sources that are already perfectly aligned with your own radical views. Come on.

[nieh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07kO9TtHYzQ

[Omni]

It doesn't help that he lists every single video ever uploaded on Youtube, like anyone is going to take the time.