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My view of the typical woman (my age) is this:
She's insecure about her looks, requires complements constantly. You pay her these complements like you have a nice figure but she takes it the wrong way and goes "oh so you think my face is ugly".
She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup. She still looks average.
She loves talking about herself.
She's clingy, but when the guy returns the clingyness she gets scared and backs off.
She always wants something else.
She strings other guys along to flatter her ego.
If all else fails marry a rich guy!
She plays constant games of hard to get or whatever.
Am I wrong? There are some cool women out there but most are idoits? Discuss.
Subject2Availability_rule
02-03-2005, 02:21 AM
how old are you?
20yrs old yo.
I kinda feel I need to reanaylise my view point of women. Cause I really only know one woman that is like I described above. The rest are pretty cool but then again I don'tknow them that well.
Vicky
02-03-2005, 02:25 AM
"She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup"
I'm not 20, (17), but, I don't do that.. I waste money on clothes.. but if I can get something cheaper, second hand, then I'll go for the cheaper one.. seems stupid to waste money if I can get it cheaper
DirtyMagical
02-03-2005, 02:31 AM
I dont' have money to waste.
I fit an even worse stereotype. I shoplift.
meaning_of_life
02-03-2005, 02:34 AM
hmm i think your view is pretty generalised. i agree with you on the clingyness, and when you pay them attention they back away. i always respect women except for sluts. they degrade themselves, not other men or women.
I wonder if I really need to point this out, but basing your view of half the world's population on ONE individual... Well, needless to say, it is more than slightly backward.
Pinocchio
02-03-2005, 03:46 AM
Am I wrong? There are some cool women out there but most are idoits? Discuss.
I`ve noticed the same thing. It`s very common.
yes....there are lots of women (about 20 years) who do not behave that way.
so... ...you have noticed one interesting feature in most of the young women..
I think dr. Freud would have said that it`s a subconscious way of trying to find a partner that fulfil her distinctive marks of an ideal guy and then have sex with him, so that the human species would continue existing and spreading.
meaning_of_life
02-03-2005, 03:54 AM
"She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup"
I'm not 20, (17), but, I don't do that.. I waste money on clothes.. but if I can get something cheaper, second hand, then I'll go for the cheaper one.. seems stupid to waste money if I can get it cheaper
jesus christ monkeyballs! only 17! i thought you were like 20 years old, vicky. :confused: on topic: girls are weird.
wheelchairman
02-03-2005, 04:21 AM
i always respect women except for sluts.
So you only respect women who follow your strict code of sexual virtuosity? Wow you're a dick. I respect RXP's opinions on women more than that.
wliethof
02-03-2005, 04:36 AM
hehe I like the first one!
meaning_of_life
02-03-2005, 04:45 AM
So you only respect women who follow your strict code of sexual virtuosity? Wow you're a dick. I respect RXP's opinions on women more than that.
pfft, whatever chairman, i couldnt care less. i dont respect women who sleep around with lots of guys, i think youd find alot of people would agree with me. are sluts the only way you get laid, perhaps?
Inshane
02-03-2005, 05:02 AM
Its so easy to generalize women. What you are talking about is the stereotypical women guys seem to talk about, and not only guys.I could say the same things about men. Live for sex, fast cars,televion not to forget beer. well that isnt true either, ok some do. but still.
I often am called the boyish girl just because I dislike shopping, don't talk about boys all the time and I dont wear pink clothes or girly stuff. its starting to irritate me. why is it needed to put men/women into those stereotypical things. Dont judge before you know somebody.
I seriously dont get the problem. If you like someone like them. If you dont, shut up and find someone you do like, don't go whining about oh he/she is so like this.
If you like someone like them. If you dont, shut up and find someone you do like, don't go whining about oh he/she is so like this.
No.
Stop whining in the +/- topic about how you have some disease that no docs take seriously.
Typical woman. It's alright for you to whine but for a guy to whine about his problems no no! Just shut up.
Women, eh?
Hahahahahhaah.
I dont' have money to waste.
I fit an even worse stereotype. I shoplift.
And you bang random people off the net, no?
So you only respect women who follow your strict code of sexual virtuosity? Wow you're a dick. I respect RXP's opinions on women more than that.
I don't mind whores, they provide a good service for society. I think more women should be whores. I refuse to let MY property be a whore though, max past owners about 5. Anymore and I'll pass.
wheelchairman
02-03-2005, 06:39 AM
pfft, whatever chairman, i couldnt care less. i dont respect women who sleep around with lots of guys, i think youd find alot of people would agree with me. are sluts the only way you get laid, perhaps?
And why shouldn't you respect a woman who sleeps around? Would you rather we sow their pussies shut? Literally, you disgust me. I would sleep with a whore over a queen anyday.
livingdeadgirl
02-03-2005, 06:43 AM
[QUOTE=Inshane]
I often am called the boyish girl just because I dislike shopping, don't talk about boys all the time and I dont wear pink clothes or girly stuff./QUOTE]
i get exactly the same thing. it pisses me off big time.
I'm not even going to defend our gender. this topic is too ridiculous to put into words.
And why shouldn't you respect a woman who sleeps around? Would you rather we sow their pussies shut? Literally, you disgust me. I would sleep with a whore over a queen anyday.
Why does he disgust you? Because he wants his woman not to have slept around? A lot of girls want that in a guy too to raise a point you can't generalise omg!!!!11
wheelchairman
02-03-2005, 07:21 AM
Why does he disgust you? Because he wants his woman not to have slept around? A lot of girls want that in a guy too to raise a point you can't generalise omg!!!!11
Pff I wouldn't like any girl who expects a guy to be sexually virtuous as well.
Did you ever 'hook up' with Nina btw?
shatskater
02-03-2005, 07:26 AM
My view of the typical woman (my age) is this:
She's insecure about her looks, requires complements constantly. You pay her these complements like you have a nice figure but she takes it the wrong way and goes "oh so you think my face is ugly".
She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup. She still looks average.
She loves talking about herself.
She's clingy, but when the guy returns the clingyness she gets scared and backs off.
She always wants something else.
She strings other guys along to flatter her ego.
If all else fails marry a rich guy!
She plays constant games of hard to get or whatever.
Am I wrong? There are some cool women out there but most are idoits? Discuss.
I dont no if their wrong, sounds more like a movies stereotype of a woman. but either way it sure is funny.
Finally! SOMEONE GETS IT!
wheelchairman
02-03-2005, 07:27 AM
Did you ever 'hook up' with Nina btw?
It's not my right to betray the privacies of other people on this board.
Finally! SOMEONE GETS IT!
Your sense of humor truly is shit.
Also, hardy-fuckin'-har.
JohnnyNemesis
02-03-2005, 07:42 AM
I'm totally with wheelchairman on this topic. I'd like to buy him a drink.
I have my own opinions on sex, and I don't think it's fair to expect everyone to fit into them. Fuck standards.
Betty
02-03-2005, 08:24 AM
I was gonna do what Inshane did and reverse the issue on guys.
Why the crazy obsession with sports, like hockey?
Why the obsession with cars, knives, explosions, etc.?
Why the obsession with video games, especially crappy fighting ones?
Why do they not ever talk about their feelings?
Why the immaturity?
Etc, etc, etc. Most guys I LIKE and are friends with are not like this, or they only possess one of these things, but they are definitely some stereotypes.
I agree that a lot of women possess annoying characteristics like the ones you described, which is why I have very few women friends. And even some of the ones I have can be a bit too girly for my liking at times.
However, YOU, RXP, LIKE girly girls so you better be prepared to take the bad with the good if you're all like "she's giggly and her perfume smells nice, she's cute and really friendly".
Anya82
02-03-2005, 09:59 AM
I'm with Inshane. I'm not into that stereotype. I'm also a little "boyish" myself. I don't like to act all "girly girl", cause that's not me. And I don't spend a lot of money on looks.. i just wear/use what makes me feel comfortable, not fashionable.
also: No, marriage is not my fucking main goal in life.. this includes marry a rich guy.
People always tend to generalize, according to their experiences. Shame you've had to deal with only that kind of chicks, RXP.
Your sense of humor truly is shit.
Also, hardy-fuckin'-har.
How many times do I have to explain the fact that humour is subjective. I love posting this kinda stuff it makes me laugh so much. To quote Linda we're all here to have fun! :D
I was gonna do what Inshane did and reverse the issue on guys.
Why the crazy obsession with sports, like hockey?
Why the obsession with cars, knives, explosions, etc.?
Why the obsession with video games, especially crappy fighting ones?
Why do they not ever talk about their feelings?
Why the immaturity?
EXACTLY!! Most guys are like this! That's what I'm saying about women. You CAN genralise. Don't give me that crap that you can't. Most guys are immature idoits at this age. They like to drink beer and fight.
generalising creates a gap between you & other individuals, because you're seeing in groups & tags.
Vicky
02-03-2005, 10:49 AM
jesus christ monkeyballs! only 17! i thought you were like 20 years old, vicky. :confused: on topic: girls are weird.
i'm 18 in May.. I'm a youngling!
Shit I never knew you were 17. omg.
the_GoDdEsS
02-03-2005, 11:17 AM
My view of the typical woman (my age) is this:
She's insecure about her looks, requires complements constantly. You pay her these complements like you have a nice figure but she takes it the wrong way and goes "oh so you think my face is ugly".
She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup. She still looks average.
She loves talking about herself.
She's clingy, but when the guy returns the clingyness she gets scared and backs off.
She always wants something else.
She strings other guys along to flatter her ego.
If all else fails marry a rich guy!
She plays constant games of hard to get or whatever.
Am I wrong? There are some cool women out there but most are idoits? Discuss.
You described a typical dumb insecure chick with 1,0000000 issues.
You need to know more mature women.
Trip Boy
02-03-2005, 11:19 AM
I only attract fat chicks most of the time.
Inshane
02-03-2005, 11:53 AM
No.
Stop whining in the +/- topic about how you have some disease that no docs take seriously.
Typical woman. It's alright for you to whine but for a guy to whine about his problems no no! Just shut up.
You dont get me. I wasn't talking about you. More about the whole situation when it comes to males talking about women and the other way around. I didnt say you should stop whining about women, more that I dont get why people whine about one another, in which way does it help.
Im always the one saying that everybody should do what the hell he wants, what you believe about women/men thats ok with me. And you are right, some women do whine a lot. so do guys.
wliethof
02-03-2005, 11:59 AM
Everyone whines in the +/- topic. It's all about themselves.. listing bad and good things. Bad things are usually noticed more by most people, so of course they get mentioned more often. Long lists of bad things happening to someone=whining.
Noodles is gay
02-03-2005, 12:00 PM
My view of the typical woman (my age) is this:
She's insecure about her looks, requires complements constantly. You pay her these complements like you have a nice figure but she takes it the wrong way and goes "oh so you think my face is ugly".
She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup. She still looks average.
She loves talking about herself.
She's clingy, but when the guy returns the clingyness she gets scared and backs off.
She always wants something else.
She strings other guys along to flatter her ego.
If all else fails marry a rich guy!
She plays constant games of hard to get or whatever.
Am I wrong? There are some cool women out there but most are idoits? Discuss.
Agree with the_GoDdEsS
Plus you've just accurately described most of the girls in my year (17), I, of course, am utterly different to that - but I reckon that girls do generally fit that pattern and guys fit the pattern someone (sorry) else described.
You dont get me. I wasn't talking about you. More about the whole situation when it comes to males talking about women and the other way around. I didnt say you should stop whining about women, more that I dont get why people whine about one another, in which way does it help.
Im always the one saying that everybody should do what the hell he wants, what you believe about women/men thats ok with me. And you are right, some women do whine a lot. so do guys.
Sorry about the comment dude that was out of order. I didn't mean it just reacting to what you said :-)
UgLy_eLf
02-03-2005, 12:38 PM
She's insecure about her looks, requires complements constantly. You pay her these complements like you have a nice figure but she takes it the wrong way and goes "oh so you think my face is ugly".
She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup. She still looks average. - Nope, I like looking like shit then I dont have to rely on looks to find a guy that'll like me for me, but fuck.. who likes my personality anyway, NOW Im gonna go cry alone in a corner boo hoo.
She loves talking about herself.- Not really, only about how I fail at everything I attempt, what a sad and meaningless existance really...
She's clingy, but when the guy returns the clingyness she gets scared and backs off. Nah I could drop my BF anytime, but I do like him so I wont.
She always wants something else. Yeah other guys are sexy to look at, but no touch, bad!
She strings other guys along to flatter her ego. Uh no one ever wants to cling to my string
If all else fails marry a rich guy! Nah rich guys are lame.
She plays constant games of hard to get or whatever. Not really but its good to see how far someone will go to be with you, a test of if they really like you or want you in the sack.
Why don't you stop bitching about how MOST women are and start looking for the women that aren't like what you've been describing. There are plenty out there but they're not good looking sorry, its 90% of the good looking ones that are the bitcheZ.
The problem is I don't want an ugly woman like you tho. I want a hot chick.
Anyway I found one, she's awesome.
UgLy_eLf
02-03-2005, 12:40 PM
Psh even I don't wanna read that so sloppy, sorry please ignore it, unless you like straining your eyes and brain to figure out what it was that I was trying to say, Im tired, goin back to bed nighty night forum, I shall return!
Camilamazed
02-03-2005, 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by Betty
I was gonna do what Inshane did and reverse the issue on guys.
Why the crazy obsession with sports, like hockey?
Why the obsession with cars, knives, explosions, etc.?
Why the obsession with video games, especially crappy fighting ones?
Why do they not ever talk about their feelings?
Why the immaturity?
You forgot to mention
WHY THE CRAZY OBSESSION WITH PENNIS SIZE?
To quote Linda we're all here to have fun! :D
...
What, I'm sorry, I stopped reading right after "To quote Linda". It made me lose my focus, think of unhappy thoughts and twitch.
90's_boy
02-03-2005, 04:52 PM
I was gonna do what Inshane did and reverse the issue on guys.
Why the crazy obsession with sports, like hockey?
Why the obsession with cars, knives, explosions, etc.?
Why the obsession with video games, especially crappy fighting ones?
Why do they not ever talk about their feelings?
Why the immaturity?
Etc, etc, etc. Most guys I LIKE and are friends with are not like this, or they only possess one of these things, but they are definitely some stereotypes.
I agree that a lot of women possess annoying characteristics like the ones you described, which is why I have very few women friends. And even some of the ones I have can be a bit too girly for my liking at times.
However, YOU, RXP, LIKE girly girls so you better be prepared to take the bad with the good if you're all like "she's giggly and her perfume smells nice, she's cute and really friendly".
she's got a point....
Talman
02-03-2005, 06:30 PM
My view of the typical woman (my age) is this:
She's insecure about her looks, requires complements constantly. You pay her these complements like you have a nice figure but she takes it the wrong way and goes "oh so you think my face is ugly".
She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup. She still looks average.
She loves talking about herself.
She's clingy, but when the guy returns the clingyness she gets scared and backs off.
She always wants something else.
She strings other guys along to flatter her ego.
If all else fails marry a rich guy!
She plays constant games of hard to get or whatever.
Am I wrong? There are some cool women out there but most are idoits? Discuss.
That's true about the typical female, but look a bit harder and you'll find a girl with maybe only a couple of those downfalls. You'll never find one that will be problem free though. The same way a girl will never find a problem free guy.
meaning_of_life
02-03-2005, 11:13 PM
And why shouldn't you respect a woman who sleeps around? Would you rather we sow their pussies shut? Literally, you disgust me. I would sleep with a whore over a queen anyday.
i disgust you because i dont have high regard for women who sleep with everybody? how the fuck does that logic work? fucking idiot.
wheelchairman
02-03-2005, 11:23 PM
i disgust you because i dont have high regard for women who sleep with everybody? how the fuck does that logic work? fucking idiot.
I'm the fucking idiot? Because you are upholding outdated morals that do not belong in today's modern thinking. Fuck you, move to Iran or Saudi Arabia if you truly support these ideas.
SkunkIt
02-03-2005, 11:43 PM
She's insecure about her looks, requires complements constantly. You pay her these complements like you have a nice figure but she takes it the wrong way and goes "oh so you think my face is ugly".-True for some.
She wastes increadible amounts of money on hair, beauty and makeup. She still looks average.-No.
She loves talking about herself.-True for some.
She's clingy, but when the guy returns the clingyness she gets scared and backs off.-True for some.
She always wants something else.-Who doesn't?
She strings other guys along to flatter her ego.-No.
If all else fails marry a rich guy!-No.
She plays constant games of hard to get or whatever.- I just stay away from guys I don't like, but i'm shy.
meaning_of_life
02-03-2005, 11:58 PM
I'm the fucking idiot? Because you are upholding outdated morals that do not belong in today's modern thinking. Fuck you, move to Iran or Saudi Arabia if you truly support these ideas.
my god, i respect your opinion of woman being able to sleep around if they choose, but fuck you for not respecting mine, which happens to be the norm in my thinking. most guys i know have little time for sluts, and your trying to tell me this thinking is backwards? what does everyone else think?
You're gettng annoying, and as I said before, your chauvenism schtick would be a lot better if we all didn't know it's coming from a loser who can't pick up and is bitter and one specific woman.
My woman hating is better suited to me than you calling other people losers when you're the one who's tried to kill himself multiple times and failed, is an alcoholic, druggie and woman beater in some shitty dead end job with no money, no education, no nothing who has to zombiefy himself with various anti-depressants just to make it thru the day and think himself better than others cause he can sleep around more. You live off other people, you're a leech who will never make it on his own. Heck even your mother's fucked up but I won't go into that because i'm a nice guy and I said I woudlnt.
You ain't hot, you got a small dick you ain't got nothing. ANYONE can pull a slut in a club, no kidding even I can I just don't wanna anymore. If chicks saw me shirtless they'd bone me in an instant over your pale, skinny, drunken ass. They'd also get wet over the fact that I do a law degree (no joke, I tell chicks I do law and they're all over me now days in a club hence why woman are whores).
Call me loser? What are you?
my god, i respect your opinion of woman being able to sleep around if they choose, but fuck you for not respecting mine, which happens to be the norm in my thinking. most guys i know have little time for sluts, and your trying to tell me this thinking is backwards? what does everyone else think?
Yeah WCM I gotta agree. It's a personal choice. Just cause you don't mind don't mean other people don't. Maybe some people rate the fact that when they bone the girl it's something special rather than just a fuck.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 03:22 AM
Yeah WCM I gotta agree. It's a personal choice. Just cause you don't mind don't mean other people don't. Maybe some people rate the fact that when they bone the girl it's something special rather than just a fuck.
I'm not saying he should date every girl no matter how much she's been with a guy. His words were that he doesn't respect girls who sleep around a lot. So of course I don't respect his opinion, it's reactionary idiocy.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 03:23 AM
my god, i respect your opinion of woman being able to sleep around if they choose, but fuck you for not respecting mine, which happens to be the norm in my thinking. most guys i know have little time for sluts, and your trying to tell me this thinking is backwards? what does everyone else think?
So...she became a 'slut' with other women then?
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:00 AM
So...she became a 'slut' with other women then?
how do you figure?
are you encouraging women to become sluts?
id rather disrespect a slut than encourage one.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 04:03 AM
how do you figure?
are you encouraging women to become sluts?
id rather disrespect a slut than encourage one.
You don't respect 'sluts.'
And a girl can't become a 'slut' unless she's with guys. So obvious there are enough guys out there for her to spend time with. Generally it seems that the term slut is just a slanderous rumor spread around for the intent of ill-will. I wholeheartedly support a free sexual society. And I find people who believe this kind of gossip, to be the kind of idiots who I don't respect.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:12 AM
slut:
A woman considered sexually promiscuous.
A woman prostitute.
A slovenly woman; a slattern.
a dirty untidy woman
a woman adulterer.
i dont think thats a good thing to be.
why should i respect someone like that?
Per, I fully agree.
I've been called a slut a hundred times. why? because I have a boyfriend & there are still guys (even friends of his), who are following me around, grabbing & groping me & trying to kiss me, or even to get me to go home with them. some say that's my own doing & that I'm too close with guys. but puh-lease, I really don't enjoy my boyfriend's friends being all over me, or any other guy I'm not interested in for that matter.
I've also been called a slut for kissing with guys. but, but.. why is it okay for them to kiss a girl or two on a night out & WHY does it make me a slut? is it too unlady-like to kiss a person you don't want to be involved with? the question already has been raised about fifteen-hundred times, but as there is no logical answer, there'll never be a good argument for this.
slut:
A woman considered sexually promiscuous.
A woman prostitute.
A slovenly woman; a slattern.
a dirty untidy woman
a woman adulterer.
i dont think thats a good thing to be.
why should i respect someone like that?
because she is human?
there are always many sides to a person. I'm sure you have your less positive characteristics, too.
& by the way, 'untidy'? HAHAHAHAHHA.
I'm a SLUT for being a chaotic piece of shit, then.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 04:16 AM
slut:
A woman considered sexually promiscuous.
A woman prostitute.
A slovenly woman; a slattern.
a dirty untidy woman
a woman adulterer.
i dont think thats a good thing to be.
why should i respect someone like that?
What's wrong with that? I'd respect her more than you. As I said I believe in sexual independence.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:29 AM
What's wrong with that? I'd respect her more than you. As I said I believe in sexual independence.
you know what, its a matter of opinion. and mine is that i find it hard to see the positive aspects of having the most intimate of acts with many people. im dissapointed that you call me an idiotand are disgusted by me for having an opinion that id think most others would uphold. sieg heil wheelchairman.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:32 AM
Per, I fully agree.
I've been called a slut a hundred times. why? because I have a boyfriend & there are still guys (even friends of his), who are following me around, grabbing & groping me & trying to kiss me, or even to get me to go home with them. some say that's my own doing & that I'm too close with guys. but puh-lease, I really don't enjoy my boyfriend's friends being all over me, or any other guy I'm not interested in for that matter.
I've also been called a slut for kissing with guys. but, but.. why is it okay for them to kiss a girl or two on a night out & WHY does it make me a slut? is it too unlady-like to kiss a person you don't want to be involved with? the question already has been raised about fifteen-hundred times, but as there is no logical answer, there'll never be a good argument for this.
im refering to sexual intercourse.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 04:38 AM
you know what, its a matter of opinion. and mine is that i find it hard to see the positive aspects of having the most intimate of acts with many people. im dissapointed that you call me an idiotand are disgusted by me for having an opinion that id think most others would uphold. sieg heil wheelchairman.
Ironically the Nazis opinions were much closer to yours. And I don't care if it's an opinion or not, I don't have to respect yours because I know you're an idiot. No, not even that, I respect idiots cause I figure they'll learn eventually, don't expect that from you.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:42 AM
thats pretty narrow minded, not respecting or acknowledging my opinion on this subject because you 'know' im an idiot.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:44 AM
Ironically the Nazis opinions were much closer to yours.
says who? YOU?
im refering to sexual intercourse.
not just sexual intercourse with the description & definition you gave.
..that you, by the way plucked, straight from 'foreignword.com'.
if everyone's definition of a slut varies so much, then I think it should be considered the definition is nothing more but an opinion of someone, that you can't state as a fact.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 04:55 AM
says who? YOU?
Yes, me. Have you ever read any of Hitler's speeches on moral society?
Dumbass.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:56 AM
not just sexual intercourse with the description & definition you gave.
..that you, by the way plucked, straight from 'foreignword.com'.
if everyone's definition of a slut varies so much, then I think it should be considered the definition is nothing more but an opinion of someone, that you can't state as a fact.
yep, you're right. the defintion dosent have much relevance to the arguement, but neither does "you're an idiot and i dont respect your opinion".
its a shame that my view cant be respected, though.
definition from dictionary.com.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 04:57 AM
thats pretty narrow minded, not respecting or acknowledging my opinion on this subject because you 'know' im an idiot.
It's not narrow-minded, it's knowing that you're a dumbass. I am open to the opinions of people who's opinions I respect. But then again, I think it's ignorance for a guy to not respect girls who have sex with guys because he wants to be the only one to have sex with her.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 04:58 AM
yep, you're right. the defintion dosent have much relevance to the arguement, but neither does "you're an idiot and i dont respect your opinion".
its a shame that my view cant be respected, though.
definition from dictionary.com.
Why should it? I'll respect your view when you respect women who are sexually liberated. Until then, your opinion is worthless.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 04:58 AM
Yes, me. Have you ever read any of Hitler's speeches on moral society?
Dumbass.
what and he respected others opinions also? huh?
moron.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 05:01 AM
what and he respected others opinions also? huh?
moron.
Sure he did, have you ever read the evening-table notes?
also, have you ever considered that some girls are sluts according to your personal definition, because of psychological reasons?
for instance (pulled straight out of my medicine studybook);
one out of six girls & one out of ten boys has had to deal with incest.
one out of three boys & girls has had a negative experience with sex.
there are several possible reactions to negative experiences with sex/incest:
* survival-strategy. psychological resistance. a run away in fantasy & a switch off of emotions. this can lead to extreme sexual behaviour.
* disability to trust, or to devellop a relation based on trust. possible disability to have sex again, but also possible extreme sexual behaviour.
* anger towards the inflictor(s) & the people in the direct environment of the victim.
* despression.
* self-destruction. as in self-harm, anorexia, suicide-attemtps.
* hide away in alchol & drugs.
* feelings of guilt.
* fear. (possible phobias)
* negative self-image, hatred towards own body, social isolation.
Edit: I made up a word.
Edit: many women, who are 'easy', or 'sluts' in the eyes of a majority, have problems with self-respect, self-love & self-esteem. by not giving the any respect you only confirm their own negative self-image. everyone's first need & desire is to have self-respect & self-esteem. it's also something everyone deserves. a logical conclusion is, that everyone also deserves the respect of others. you might not always agree with what other people do, nevermind understand their reasons, but that doesn't mean you have the right to respect them any less, than another human being. & certainly not before you've tried to figure them out remotely. yes, you even have to respect your own enemies. you can interfere with their actions based on your own personal beliefs, but you may not disrespect anyone. you simply don't have the right to.
I deeply believe this & know in my heart it makes life easier, nicer & that it definitely isn't *untrue*.
Suicidal alcoholic drug-addicted women-beating poor uneducated medicated leeching pindicked sluts > Mudskins. Get off your soapbox before you get sniped off by a klansman, nobody likes an uppity nigger.
You do realise I am better than you in every single way? I've proven it, the only way you can assure yourself that you are somehow better than me is by saying I'm Indian, wtf. You're an idoit. And people like a prepy nigger over a poor white guy anyday. Money is respect in our capitalist society.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 05:14 AM
also, have you ever considered that some girls are sluts according to your personal definition, because of psychological reasons?
for instance (pulled straight out of my medicine studybook);
one out of six girls & one out of ten boys has had to deal with incest.
one out of three boys & girls has had a negative experience with sex.
there are several possible reactions to negative experiences with sex/incest:
* survival-strategy. psychological resistance. a run away in fantasy & a switch off of emotions. this can lead to extreme sexual behaviour.
* disability to trust, or to devellop a relation based on trust. possible disability to have sex again, but also possible extreme sexual behaviour.
* anger towards the inflictor(s) & the people in the direct environment of the victim.
* despression.
* self-destruction. as in self-harm, anorexia, suicide-attemtps.
* hide away in alchol & drugs.
* feelings of guilt.
* fear. (possible phobias)
* negative self-image, hatred towards own body, social isolation.
Edit: I made up a word.
yep they could all be a factor, it still dosent mean i have to respect what they do. the above could also be used to defend just about anybody/thing.
even though, i still respect your opinion, Joy, and thanks for responding without animosity.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 05:17 AM
Why bother Joy? The boy ignored all my logical arguments and focused on Hitler, what the fuck? He obviously doesn't care about social conditioning or any of that, if they don't follow his Virgin Mary plans they aren't human beings.
WCM why can't you understand that a guy might want sex to be special so he doesn't want the woman to treat it like it's some kind of normal act but something special? What the hell is wrong with that? I think of kissing in the same way. I know I'm weird but I do.
meaning_of_life
02-04-2005, 05:24 AM
Why bother Joy? The boy ignored all my logical arguments and focused on Hitler, what the fuck? He obviously doesn't care about social conditioning or any of that, if they don't follow his Virgin Mary plans they aren't human beings.
i didnt ignore your arguements, but i find it hard to take in your views when at the same time your insulting me as though ive offended you personally.
yep they could all be a factor, it still dosent mean i have to respect what they do. the above could also be used to defend just about anybody/thing.
even though, i still respect your opinion, Joy, and thanks for responding without animosity.
you're using the wrong word. you don't AGREE with what 'sluts' do & don't UNDERSTAND what moves them to do so. this shouldn't have *anything* to do with the respect, that you have, for another person.
I just want you to understand (& no, I don't particularly dislike you, I just feel like things need to be set straight), that everyone on this planet makes his/her own decisions in life, based on their own personal reasons & history. (that in this case, you don't know of) they might turn out to be wrong, or bad to themselves - they might turn out to be harmless & even constructive for their personality.
also *you* make tons of these decisions every fucking day & minute, maybe without even realising. I believe you'd expect other people to respect your opinion, personal motives, personal history & decisions. you say you do & I know I do. I'd find it very reasonable, if people would just let me lead my life & possibly advice me on the way, if they think something I do could harm myself, or anyone else in any way.
there's a great difference between respecting & agreeing. if you only respect the ones you agree with & understand, then your life may turn out to be very difficult to lead. respect should speak for itself. I do respect you, but I don't agree with your disrespect for others.
He obviously doesn't care about social conditioning or any of that, if they don't follow his Virgin Mary plans they aren't human beings.
right. on this I'll stand behind you. definitely.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 06:21 AM
WCM why can't you understand that a guy might want sex to be special so he doesn't want the woman to treat it like it's some kind of normal act but something special? What the hell is wrong with that? I think of kissing in the same way. I know I'm weird but I do.
Sex isn't economics. It's special, but not cause there is a low supply and a high demand for it. Even if a guy thinks it's special, and a girl enjoys having it often, that shouldn't prevent him from respecting her does it? I'm not saying he has to marry her or anything.
thanks to disrespect it actually occurs as least as often the other way around.
Fuck you, move to Iran or Saudi Arabia if you truly support these ideas.
what the hell is wrong with you?! did you read that in
a book again? fuck, i am so sick of such comments.
you dont know a thing about today's society in those
countries. thanks.
This topic has officially lost it.
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 08:55 AM
what the hell is wrong with you?! did you read that in
a book again? fuck, i am so sick of such comments.
you dont know a thing about today's society in those
countries. thanks.
The ruling groups of both societies are violently male-chauvinistic. Am I wrong that the Ayatollah's are rather heavy-handed when it comes to women in Iran? Or am I wrong that in Saudi Arabia the Wahabbi's have been committing similar crimes for the past 200 years?
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE130012005?open&of=ENG-373
http://hrw.org/press/2003/07/saudi070203.htm
I said nothing of the people of these societies, their culture, and their way of life. I merely intoned that the laws of these societies would please him. Seeing as both societies are rather undemocratic (yes Iran has the Majlis, but that's hardly democratic with the Ayatollahs.)
Pinocchio
02-04-2005, 09:02 AM
This topic has officially lost it.
yea, this thread has turned into a very interesting fight.
I have to say my thoughts too..
If a woman enjoys having lots of one night things, that`s her own business, lots of guys do it too.
BUT, when she has a boyfriend, she shouldn`t talk about her former guys and their qualities, it`s so fucking annoying!! (I have a few bad experiences)
personally, I find it hard to trust women who are commonly known as "easy".
when I`m seriously looking for a lady to love and trust, she shouldn`t be the kind of woman who has a history of sleeping with any guy from the street..
but, that`s only my opinion, everyone makes own decisions and have own life-values etc.
so.. since we have the right to choose who we like, there`s nothing wrong with using that right and being with the people we like and not being with people who we don`t like.
anyhow, this doesn`t mean we would have to be mean against the people who`s opinions are diffrent from our own.
livingdeadgirl
02-04-2005, 09:03 AM
this thread is officailly interesting.
Camilamazed
02-04-2005, 09:10 AM
Guys I don't know if I'm getting right what Joy,WCM and meaning of life are saying.
I juts have an opinion about it. I agree with what WCM says we must respect sluts even though "I" do not agree with their way of life.I just think this must be really hard for them so that's why they have my respect. That's ok about MOL's opinion, after all everyone has her/his on opinion.Let me just put some things straight. I think it's totally different a slu from a girl that has a sexual life. Maybe this girl have sex with all boyfriends she used to have or a new one. It doesn't mean she is a slut (As Meaning described in one of his posts). Lots of friends of mine had two or more boyfriends and had sex with them.But they aren't sluts.I believe it is totally different.A slut from a girl with a sexual life.
Question:
@WCM: Would you date a girl who used to be a slut?
@Meaning: Would you date agirl (Not a slut) knowing she has a sexual life?
There is something twisted about the double moral of slutty guys getting to wear their sexual experience like medals around their necks, but girls have to be ashamed if they've had sex with a number of guys. But that's been stated a million times. It's fucked, but what I've noticed is that it's pretty hard to try and shake a society out of its habit, no matter how wrong said habit of thinking might be.
My English sucks today. I'll leave you with a thought.
A girl/woman I know once said: "Kaikki järjestyy kun ei oo turhan tarkka vitustaan."
Freely translated, "Everything works out when you're not too careful about who you fuck."
Another pearl of wisdom: "The only thing more annoying than a woman who doesn't give out is an ugly woman who doesn't give out."
Disclaimer: Of course I'm fucking kidding. At least about the wisdom-part.
Pinocchio
02-04-2005, 09:36 AM
A girl/woman I know once said: "Kaikki järjestyy kun ei oo turhan tarkka vitustaan."
Freely translated, "Everything works out when you're not too careful about who you fuck."
Another pearl of wisdom: "The only thing more annoying than a woman who doesn't give out is an ugly woman who doesn't give out."
the latter one is good :D
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 10:05 AM
@WCM: Would you date a girl who used to be a slut?
I think slut is a stupid term and wouldn't think about dating her twice.
The ruling groups of both societies are violently male-chauvinistic. Am I wrong that the Ayatollah's are rather heavy-handed when it comes to women in Iran? Or am I wrong that in Saudi Arabia the Wahabbi's have been committing similar crimes for the past 200 years?
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE130012005?open&of=ENG-373
http://hrw.org/press/2003/07/saudi070203.htm
I said nothing of the people of these societies, their culture, and their way of life. I merely intoned that the laws of these societies would please him. Seeing as both societies are rather undemocratic (yes Iran has the Majlis, but that's hardly democratic with the Ayatollahs.)
i never talked about the politics, i wouldnt because i
dont have enough knowledge.
living in a country doesnt only have to do with what
the law says. the part of country i live in officially still
has capital punishment and similar laws. we dont do any
of that shit, though.
i talked about the people. and thats what its MOSTLY
about when living with PEOPLE.
bah. not everything is about politics.
and no i just cant get over this (for the rest who think
this is "oh so not necessarry". suck me off, bitches)
wheelchairman
02-04-2005, 10:58 AM
i never talked about the politics, i wouldnt because i
dont have enough knowledge.
living in a country doesnt only have to do with what
the law says. the part of country i live in officially still
has capital punishment and similar laws. we dont do any
of that shit, though.
i talked about the people. and thats what its MOSTLY
about when living with PEOPLE.
bah. not everything is about politics.
Yes, but I was making a comparison, and the focus wasn't on Iran or Saudi Arabia, if I wanted to say people and said he would prefer living in the Ngogo Tribe of Equatorial New Guinea, the point would not only have been lost, it would've sounded stupid. Same thing if I said he should live in Little Rock.
the_GoDdEsS
02-04-2005, 11:34 AM
I've read every single thing and I must say this is the first topic in years, literally, I find so sickening that I don't even want to reply again.
I've read every single thing and I must say this is the first topic in years, literally, I find so sickening that I don't even want to reply again.
frankly I've given up on it too.
I wasn't even around to argue...
Then again, I probably wouldn't have anyway, as it's pointless.
My point? I do'nt think there was any. I'm too tired :/
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