View Full Version : Why do most of the people here hate Green Day?
Seriously. If Green Day just doesn't fit your tastes, that's fine. But I have seen tons of topics, even some on the board dedicated only to the Offspring, displaying hate for them because they're "sellouts and too popular". OK, what IS a sellout? A musician/group of musicians who's ship has finally come in, and have now achieved the American dream of doing what they want and enjoy and are making a lot of money doing it? Because they've made a comeback and because they're selling a lot of music now? Anyone here would try to do the same, and you're a lying hypocrit if you tell me any different.
And as for being popular, it's what any band wants. Even those who don't really care, and play their music just because it's fun, would take the chance to have their music played on National Radio if the opportunity presented itself. And if you really like a band, you'd want them same for them, and you'd be happy when they achieved it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making good music. I've seen topics that have nothing to do with Green Day, yet if the name is mentioned, it'll be flooded with people posting their hate for the band. It makes me mad to see a band who have been around awhile, and who have paid their dues, and have made a success story for themselves, trashed by some kid with a negative, anti-media attitude. If you don't like them, stop listening to them and get the hell over it.
BuddyHolly
03-13-2005, 04:48 PM
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dirtybird
03-13-2005, 04:59 PM
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I agree. Congratulations on your distance typing skills.
I'm about to fuck up your statement, have fun collecting the shards of it. Plenty of people on here like Greenday, me being one of them. They're one of my favorite bands. I still say they're sellouts, though. You see them, Billie-Joe especially, with all thos black clothes and black eyeliner stuff on because they're trying to match today's MTV look. Notice they look alot like Good Charlotte, which is one of the most 'punk' bands at the moment? Compare their style now to their style in '94 with the Dookie release. Totally different. I still like their music, American Idiot is great and so is the rest of the album, I just don't respect them very much anymore (except for Mike, he hasn't changed as much), and I think Dookie was their best album.
There are many opinions on the boards, and alot of the people dislike Greenday because they're getting all the attention right now when they're not original like The Offspring are. Also, the Greenday spammers left a bad taste in our mouths. Of course there are people who don't like Greenday, no band is going to get everyone to like them. They express their dislike when the time is appropriate, which is fine. It's just an opinion; you don't have to agree.
My point is, don't profile or stereotype (whichever one works better here) people's opinions, because that's all they are. If they get out of hand and start appearing places they shouldn't be, you have a right to complain, but leave them alone otherwise.
Every green day fan I have met is a douche bag.
This
http://www.gla.ac.uk/~cmc1z/fantasy_celts_b/fantasy_celts_15/green_day_01.jpg
To this
http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/reprise/greenday/0804_green_day_b.jpg
omg good charlotte!
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nitropenguin!
03-13-2005, 05:08 PM
Dirty, you're a fucking ace. I applaud your thesis ;P
I think that whole blowing my sentence to pieces things was a bit much, because I didn't take any offense to your post at all. Just because someone changes their fashion-style or decided to mix things up a little bit doesn't mean their sell-outs, but I can kind of see why you dislike the change. I also love Dookie.
I don't mind when people post their opinion like that. It really makes me mad when people say stuff like "Screw Green Day they suck", and they have no proof to back that up, and they're just saying it because they heard someone else say it, you know? Also, many Offspring fans, knowing this board, have also responded in kind to the spamming, so I think we're about fair with them. And you shouldn't hate a band because their fans are idiots. And about the stereotypical statements I have seemingly made, I think it's safe to put it the way I did because this Forum is seriously infested with remarks like that at every single section. You disagree with me, that's fine. You posted in a civilized manner, that's fine. I tried to get my point across without cussing like an idiot and offending people, and as long as people do the same with remarks about Green Day or anyone else, it doesn't bother me.
dirtybird
03-13-2005, 05:09 PM
Every green day fan I have met is a douche bag.
This
http://www.gla.ac.uk/~cmc1z/fantasy_celts_b/fantasy_celts_15/green_day_01.jpg
To this
http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/reprise/greenday/0804_green_day_b.jpg
omg good charlotte!
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That's what I said, but do you really think I'm a douche?
dirtybird
03-13-2005, 05:09 PM
Dirty, you're a fucking ace. I applaud your thesis ;P
Why thank you.
That's what I said, but do you really think I'm a douche?
yes, probably.
Samr, you probably HAVE, but I think it's hard to make that argument when non-fans are being just as crude as the fans are.
dirtybird
03-13-2005, 05:14 PM
I think that whole blowing my sentence to pieces things was a bit much, because I didn't take any offense to your post at all. Just because someone changes their fashion-style or decided to mix things up a little bit doesn't mean their sell-outs, but I can kind of see why you dislike the change. I also love Dookie.
I don't mind when people post their opinion like that. It really makes me mad when people say stuff like "Screw Green Day they suck", and they have no proof to back that up, and they're just saying it because they heard someone else say it, you know? Also, many Offspring fans, knowing this board, have also responded in kind to the spamming, so I think we're about fair with them. And you shouldn't hate a band because their fans are idiots. And about the stereotypical statements I have seemingly made, I think it's safe to put it the way I did because this Forum is seriously infested with remarks like that at every single section. You disagree with me, that's fine. You posted in a civilized manner, that's fine. I tried to get my point across without cussing like an idiot and offending people, and as long as people do the same with remarks about Green Day or anyone else, it doesn't bother me.
1. The blowing your thread to pieces things meant I owning what you said basically, not that you should take offense.
2."I don't mind when people post their opinion like that. It really makes me mad when people say stuff like "Screw Green Day they suck", and they have no proof to back that up, and they're just saying it because they heard someone else say it, you know?" -- Then why were you complaining about it?
3."Also, many Offspring fans, knowing this board, have also responded in kind to the spamming, so I think we're about fair with them. " -- It was actually only one asshole.
4."And you shouldn't hate a band because their fans are idiots." -- When did anyone say they did?
5."And about the stereotypical statements I have seemingly made, I think it's safe to put it the way I did because this Forum is seriously infested with remarks like that at every single section." -- I've never seen any in the 'nirvana is overrated', 'The band game', or 'the song game' threads along with many others I can't think of off the top of my head.
6."I tried to get my point across without cussing like an idiot and offending people, and as long as people do the same with remarks about Green Day or anyone else, it doesn't bother me" -- If nothing bothers you, WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?!
And Nitro, he makes a pretty good argument. But I don't think he's the person I should be mad at, he seems like a very cool guy, and he can put his 2-cents in without offending anyone.
I am complaining because there ARE a bunch of people here do DO post in a hateful way toward Green Day, not in a non-offensive way. You also said earlier that the whole spamming incident left a bad taste in our mouth, well, I was only assuming that you meant that was a part of the reason that people here dislike Green Day, and you shouldn't dislike a band just because of someone like that.
And Samr, I meant you probably have met some jackasses before. Should have been more specific.
dirtybird
03-13-2005, 05:26 PM
I am complaining because there ARE a bunch of people here do DO post in a hateful way toward Green Day, not in a non-offensive way. You also said earlier that the whole spamming incident left a bad taste in our mouth, well, I was only assuming that you meant that was a part of the reason that people here dislike Green Day, and you shouldn't dislike a band just because of someone like that.
And Samr, I meant you probably have met some jackasses before. Should have been more specific.
If they want to post in an offensive way, that's their right! When I looked on the Greenday board I saw posts about The Offspring sucking. About the spamming thing, it only amplified the dislike that had previously been laying dormant. None of your arguments have any merit, you might as well stop.
When people say "green day sucks i hate em", and thats all they say, they are expressing their opinion. what are you people expecting? a debate? about green day? It's an opinion. and they dont have to tell you why they hate green day.
and dont give me any "they should put IMO there" bull, because that's just being redundant. If you can't tell an opinion from a fact, then you don't deserve to have someone explain it to you.
You haven't owned any of my posts. Your little "ur pwned thx" approach doesn't work with me, because I'm just not blown away by your little smart ass attitude.
While they may have the RIGHT to post in an offensive way, that doesn't mean they should do it, now does it? What does that EVER accomplish? Saying things with complete lack of tact is how just about every fight and every argument is ever started. What good can it possibly do?
As for the Green Day board, who really gives a shit of what they're saying on THAT board? I am sick of having to listen to it on THIS board, OK? My argument has no merit? There was no argument! None! There probably wouldn't have been one at all until you came here wanting to impress your ass kissers that applaud your every statement because you think you've made some brilliant point. Shut the fuck up.
dirtybird
03-13-2005, 05:47 PM
You haven't owned any of my posts. Your little "ur pwned thx" approach doesn't work with me, because I'm just not blown away by your little smart ass attitude.
While they may have the RIGHT to post in an offensive way, that doesn't mean they should do it, now does it? What does that EVER accomplish? Saying things with complete lack of tact is how just about every fight and every argument is ever started. What good can it possibly do?
As for the Green Day board, who really gives a shit of what they're saying on THAT board? I am sick of having to listen to it on THIS board, OK? My argument has no merit? There was no argument! None! There probably wouldn't have been one at all until you came here wanting to impress your ass kissers that applaud your every statement because you think you've made some brilliant point. Shut the fuck up.
1. Ebonics are gay, never even joke about them.
2. While they may have the RIGHT to post in an offensive way, that doesn't mean they should do it, now does it? -- Who cares if they should or not? The whole point of message boards is to express yourself!
3. What does that EVER accomplish? Saying things with complete lack of tact is how just about every fight and every argument is ever started. What good can it possibly do? -- It's not meant to do anything good! What it accomplishes is expressing their thoughts! You can't stop them from doing that, nor should you try!
4. As for the Green Day board, who really gives a shit of what they're saying on THAT board? -- Why do you give a shit what we say on ours?
5. My argument has no merit? There was no argument! None! -- You were contradicting what I was saying which means it was an argument! Learn English!
6. There probably wouldn't have been one at all until you came here wanting to impress your ass kissers that applaud your every statement because you think you've made some brilliant point. -- They're only applauding because they think I'm right; they'd diss me if they didn't!
7. Shut the fuck up. -- Was that really necessary? :p :rolleyes:
JohnnyNemesis
03-13-2005, 05:50 PM
Sometimes I wonder how anyone can tolerate Green Day, but to each their own. What bothers me is that people like Omni act like what they're saying hasn't been said a MILLION times by the rest of the planet.
OK, what IS a sellout? A musician/group of musicians who's ship has finally come in, and have now achieved the American dream of doing what they want and enjoy and are making a lot of money doing it? Because they've made a comeback and because they're selling a lot of music now? Anyone here would try to do the same, and you're a lying hypocrit if you tell me any different.
No one's complaining about people acheiving success, people are complaining about the fact that success is defined by money. And American dream? The fuck is this, the 1940s? Do you actually believe that bullshit?
Truth is, bands who don't change their style to make money are pretty fuckin' rich anyway. But when they change in order to make MORE money, that's when people have a problem.
What's funny is that this doesn't apply to either Green Day or The Offspring, since neither band ever claimed that they would never sell out. So it's true that people who use the "sellout" phrase are usually idiots. But you're not making much sense in that quote there.
JohnnyNemesis
03-13-2005, 05:52 PM
6. There probably wouldn't have been one at all until you came here wanting to impress your ass kissers that applaud your every statement because you think you've made some brilliant point. -- They're only applauding because they think I'm right; they'd diss me if they didn't!
The fact that I have no problem with dirtybird, yet I did not hesitate to go to war with him in that 50 Cent thread, proves this statement.
dirtybird
03-13-2005, 09:44 PM
The fact that I have no problem with dirtybird, yet I did not hesitate to go to war with him in that 50 Cent thread, proves this statement.
And I still respect you, as well. We win. *starts to give high five, then realizes the patheticness*
billiejoe87_greenday
03-13-2005, 09:45 PM
I dunno how offspring fans can say they cant stand green day. There early stuff was so similiar, thats why there compared so often!!
dirtybird
03-13-2005, 09:49 PM
I dunno how offspring fans can say they cant stand green day. There early stuff was so similiar, thats why there compared so often!!
Let's compare "Burnout" to "Nitro (Youth Energy)", both released in '94 and the first actual song of the album (besides Smash's intro). Similar my ASS. I like Greenday, but they're hardly similar, sorry.
offspringrammsteinfan
03-14-2005, 02:48 AM
I don't mind the fact green day are considered as "sell-outs" nor as anything they are considered to be.
I give every band an try, so I did with green day. Listened to dookie, listened to i.s, listened to american idiot. And all you can't say is that I don't give a band a try. I'd say they have like 5 to 6 good songs, bassicly on every album 1. It's just a fact that as you take a album every song on it sounds similair. There ain't much different.
I won't say Green day are a bad band, but I can say there are loads and loads of bands who are better. I just hope that one day Billy joe and co. see the light and make there songs don't sound as similair.
Well.... Did I make my point clear yet?
BuddyHolly
03-14-2005, 02:53 AM
I dunno how offspring fans can say they cant stand green day. There early stuff was so similiar, thats why there compared so often!!
apperntly you don't know the early stuff of one of those bands, 39/Smooth and The Offspring don't sound the same at all, neither do Kerplunk and Ignition. The reason why they are compared that much is because Green Day and The Offspring were both punkrockbands wich got into the mainstream about the same time. I has nothing to do with the music.
offspringrammsteinfan
03-14-2005, 02:56 AM
apperntly you don't know the early stuff of one of those bands, 39/Smooth and The Offspring don't sound the same at all, neither do Kerplunk and Ignition. The reason why they are compared that much is because Green Day and The Offspring were both punkrockbands wich got into the mainstream about the same time. I has nothing to do with the music.
Yay! I can't deny the facts :).
dexterisMYman
03-14-2005, 05:28 AM
i hate them cuz they suck now
saska de o...
03-14-2005, 05:44 AM
really? i dont know them.. i know only one song ;/
offspringrammsteinfan
03-15-2005, 12:58 AM
really? i dont know them.. i know only one song ;/
you must have found your gardenangel, this band isn't worth spending an penny. Seriously just download there "better" songs: Basket case, minority and american idiot, these are the only ones that are really good, the rest is not band, but not to good either.
Satankaban
03-15-2005, 02:08 AM
Maybe many people donīt like Green Day, because they are famous because of shit like American Idiot. They have never been so famous since they released American Idiot. Their earlier albums are better! And someone said, that every one wants to be famous, but I donīt want to be famous. I just wanna play drums, not earn money, because I can play some rhytms.
offspringrammsteinfan
03-15-2005, 03:40 AM
Maybe many people donīt like Green Day, because they are famous because of shit like American Idiot. They have never been so famous since they released American Idiot. Their earlier albums are better! And someone said, that every one wants to be famous, but I donīt want to be famous. I just wanna play drums, not earn money, because I can play some rhytms.
I bet for E25,- that that's a lie! We all are bastards which like the green collor of money... I bet you can't life for three weeks without having any money.. Food, drinks etc... They all costs money... And I don't even talk yet about cd's, merchandising, transport etc.
MaaQhimself
03-15-2005, 05:49 AM
i dont like them. not because theyre popular but because they play shit music. boulevard of broken bones is the only listenable song on american idiot. rest of the songs suck. :)
Satankaban
03-15-2005, 11:40 PM
I bet for E25,- that that's a lie! We all are bastards which like the green collor of money... I bet you can't life for three weeks without having any money.. Food, drinks etc... They all costs money... And I don't even talk yet about cd's, merchandising, transport etc.
I am 17 years old. I donīt know what did you think about me? Once a month, I receive 400 czech crowns from my parents. Itīs about 13.33 Euro. I know that in Germany I would spend it quickly, but in Czech Republic not. And my parents give me money when I want to go on the concert. I donīt have any problem. If I want to buy something, I take my own money or money from my parents.
And I donīt want to be well known in Czech Republic. I would like to play later, but just in clubs, because people are more happy from underground bands than bands which are well known. In fact, in Czech Republic is no good band, which is well known. I donīt listen too much to czech bands. Just some punk bands and thatīs all. But seriously, I donīt want to be famous. After high school I want to go on university and after university I want to find a job.
sk8ter-hater
03-16-2005, 01:34 AM
We hate Greenday because they are overrated bitches, people only like them because they think that short ass Billy Joe is in this case hot and since tehir fans seem to make pointless threads in which they bitch about their "superiority" over the Offspring. I say they should go bakc to the BBS from which they came from and stop posting here.
billiejoe87_greenday
03-16-2005, 02:03 AM
I love green day and LIKE Offspring. I dunno where the hatred comes from cos Green Day are really good.
offspringrammsteinfan
03-16-2005, 02:16 AM
I love green day and LIKE Offspring. I dunno where the hatred comes from cos Green Day are really good.
It seems like I'm the only one who knows that green day hates the offspring and vica versa. Listen to their pistakes they made of each other. Green day - Self esteem and Offspring - Basket case, quite funny. :)
But green day is way to overated that's just fits in.
billiejoe87_greenday
03-16-2005, 02:21 AM
Thats just jokes though how they sing eachothers songs wats the problem? and if its true where can you get these things from?
offspringrammsteinfan
03-16-2005, 02:24 AM
Thats just jokes though how they sing eachothers songs wats the problem
I don't make a problem of it, but you better learn english, please motherfucker! Even me is better in english than you. But hey maybe that's is the reason why you can like green day. there lyrics suck
leo3375
03-16-2005, 05:11 PM
I don't think it's so much that we hate Green Day. We're just sick of spammers from the Green Day boards making the same annoying thread over and over again!
dirtybird
03-16-2005, 09:50 PM
Spaaaaaaam.
leo3375
03-16-2005, 10:01 PM
Spaaaaaaam.
Exactly! I like Green Day, but these spammers have to go! And it won't do any good to go to the Green Day boards and spam them, either, because they'll retaliate with more spam.
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