Fear and Loathing, Campaign 2004 By DR. HUNTER S. THOMPSON

[Not Ozymandias]

I don't know if I'm pleased or disappointed to see HST get behind Kerry like this. When he can look back at LBJ and Nixon with something other than total contempt then something seems amiss.
He's sure right about Nader, though...


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6562575?&rnd=1098845881421&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040
He was yelling into a bullhorn and I was trying to throw a dead, bleeding rat over a black-spike fence and onto the president's lawn.


BTW, if you ever want to read a spectacular book about Presidential races, get Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72

[wheelchairman]

ah Gonzo Journalism. The only true journalism.

[SicN Twisted]

Hunter's a great writer, but a damn pushover. I'm so dissapointed that so many acclaimed people are blinded by Bush's falicies that they believe Kerry's significantly better.

[Little_Miss_1565]

Hunter's a great writer, but a damn pushover. I'm so dissapointed that so many acclaimed people are blinded by Bush's falicies that they believe Kerry's significantly better.

To change our system, one must fight within the system.

Also, Nader is on the ballot in several states only thanks to Republican groups who have canvassed for him. Dr. Thompson is right about the Judas Goat bit.

[SicN Twisted]

Changing the system cannot be done within the system. The only true changes of government have occured through peaceful or violent revolution. Complete destruction of the state in its formation, and reconstruction with different leaders and a different system. The French revolutionaries didn't support the nobles who were slightly less tyranical, they destroyed the nobility.

[Little_Miss_1565]

As it stands right now, I think it's pretty safe to say that our system of government is close to if not 100% revolution-proof. We still have the right as the people of the United States to abolish and recreate government as we may, but we were talking about this in my con law class today and I really don't think that something on a scale like the French Revolution would be feasible in this country today.

[SicN Twisted]

If a small, cave-dwelling, low rent terrorist organization can attack our country and cause it to revert to complete disorder and paranoia (CODE ORANGE, anyone?), I'm sure that eventually, with enough organization and devotion, the state can be dismantled from within.

You can start by voting Nader!.

[Little_Miss_1565]

If a small, cave-dwelling, low rent terrorist organization can attack our country and cause it to revert to complete disorder and paranoia (CODE ORANGE, anyone?), I'm sure that eventually, with enough organization and devotion, the state can be dismantled from within.

You can start by voting Nader!.

You can do this by voting for someone who's main help leading up to the election was the Republican party?

[Not Ozymandias]

What good will voting for Nader do? He won't win and he won't get 5%. Hell, even if he did get 5% it wouldn't matter, he isn't with the Green party anymore so they couldn't benefit from matching-funds. The fact of the matter is Nader is running because he's a bitter child. There's nothing to gain from his candidacy and everything to lose.

[wheelchairman]

His performance on the campaign trail could be to influence the democrats from their relatively right-wingist path. (I mean, from jumping even more to the right). Just to gain a few extra votes.

[Not Ozymandias]

In theory. But Gore still ran as the Republicrat thug he was and Kerry is still posing as a moderate. If anything, all Nader is doing is making the Democratic party resentful of the far left.

[wheelchairman]

True, but if the voices of the far left went unheard, then neither Kerry nor the democrats would pay heed to them. The Democrats get so pissed off at the mention of Nader, that they have to at least recognize there are people to the left of them who don't want to be disenfranchised.

Either way, this election proves wrong the ridiculous theory that an extreme right wing government attracts more voters to the extreme left. Because even die-hard communists will probably be voting for Kerry, just to get rid of the extreme right government.