The GAUNGE! oh cheeze

[Guillermo90]

Who here smokes the gaunge? I love weed, i think its not a very smart thing to do to let cigarettes (which really just kill you), and alcohol (just like weed make you feel different, cept you really loose more control which makes you passo ut faster, and is worse for your body cuz of all the chemical mixtures which makes you throw up and have a bad day the next day) and not let our good old friend MaryJuana legal. What the hell is wrong with it? If you smoke out of a bong it is totally healthy! well fine, maybe not TOTALLY healthy but its said that if you only smoke a bong for a whole year its equal to smoking a cigarette. Plus weed doesnt make you do anything, because its too hard, when im stoned i dont like doing physical activities and all that shit i just like relaxing and watching tv, or talking with friends or meeting new people, and DEFINATELY put on some nice tunes. Plus weed also expands your creativity, so it can totally help you out on some shit, and it can also cure deseases. AND its not addictive. I also hear about the whole gateway drug, ive been doing marijuana for years, and thats the only thing ive touched. I dont do LSD or shrooms or all that other crap. So chat amungst yourself about the nice little Mary Jane.

[Isolated Fury]

I don't see why or even how it matters. Who cares, really? A drug is a drug, and it's someone's personal preference. If people let others acknowledge their drug use, they get labeled as a waste of society. Proud as you may be, there are people out there who attack your interests, and it will end up marring your self esteem. Please, just don't talk about it very much.

[JoY]

I fucking hate weed. it makes me tired just when the party is booming.
as for creative? no man. TIRED. that's everything but creative, if you ask me.

alcohol & nicotine all the way.
& don't even BEGIN to discuss the consequences of those two with me.

[Guillermo90]

Then you must be taking bad weed or just not taking it right. Dont take it during parties too dude. Take it on your own its so nice, or with friends its just great great times. Umm i know this is gonna sound stupid after everything ive said, but i dont wanna influence anybody haha. I just wanna make reason for those who get the bad propaganda from stupid ass school. Theyre only tryin to keep you from doing illegal things. Which is good but... weed should still be legal in the first place.

[Guillermo90]

I don't see why or even how it matters. Who cares, really? A drug is a drug, and it's someone's personal preference. If people let others acknowledge their drug use, they get labeled as a waste of society. Proud as you may be, there are people out there who attack your interests, and it will end up marring your self esteem. Please, just don't talk about it very much.
well if you dont care then you dont have to post anything, no one invited you. nd dont give me the "i was expressing myself crap" your not expressing yourself, your polluting my thread!
EDIT! didnt read the rest sorry, my bad, well i think i can talk about it, cuz well, im not just saying this but its not easy bringing me down, im a very happy person i try not to complain, im a very lucky person and i think another reason i beleive i will never be brought down by what other people think would be that i already know my goal in life, when you know your goal in life, you sort of have your morals down and your wrong and rights down people can attack, just know ill attack back i dont like people fucking around with me like that. This is how it has always been in my life. I dont let people beleive they are better than me.

[Isolated Fury]

well if you dont care then you dont have to post anything, no one invited you. nd dont give me the "i was expressing myself crap" your not expressing yourself, your polluting my thread!

If you must know, I actually do smoke weed. I just don't see why it's such a big deal?

[JoY]

I don't see why or even how it matters. Who cares, really? A drug is a drug, and it's someone's personal preference. If people let others acknowledge their drug use, they get labeled as a waste of society. Proud as you may be, there are people out there who attack your interests, and it will end up marring your self esteem. Please, just don't talk about it very much.
what a pile of nonsense. I don't know in what kind of society you live, but if it judges you for occasional use of pot, then it's incredibly narrow-minded, judgemental & retarded.

drug-use should under no circumstances make you proud. that's just ridiculous. & people criticising your interests should under no circumstances affect your self-esteem.

what you said about personal preferences.. well, of course. I agree.

[Guillermo90]

what a pile of nonsense. I don't know in what kind of society you live, but if it judges you for occasional use of pot, then it's incredibly narrow-minded, judgemental & retarded.

drug-use should under no circumstances make you proud. that's just ridiculous. & people criticising your interests should under no circumstances affect your self-esteem.

what you said about personal preferences.. well, of course. I agree.
yayayy! Agreement. Im not proud to be smoking pot, lol thats a real dumb thing to be proud of. I just love it sooo much it influenced me into making a thread because i love it sooo much.

[Homer]

smoking weed is like, sooooooooo stupid... :D

[Isolated Fury]

what a pile of nonsense. I don't know in what kind of society you live, but if it judges you for occasional use of pot, then it's incredibly narrow-minded, judgemental & retarded.

drug-use should under no circumstances make you proud. that's just ridiculous. & people criticising your interests should under no circumstances affect your self-esteem.

what you said about personal preferences.. well, of course. I agree.

If you haven't noticed, the entire world is narrow-minded and judgemental, excluding a small fraction of people. There are some people that take pride in their mind's destruction. Take a look at TripBoy (no offense, TripBoy). He loves talking about how much he impairs himself, and, I think, he thinks that makes him better than other people. And yes, criticism does hurt people's self-esteem. Unless you're completely immune to others' opinions, your feelings will, eventually, be hurt. When feelings are hurt, self-esteem is damaged.

[JoY]

Then you must be taking bad weed or just not taking it right. Dont take it during parties too dude. Take it on your own its so nice, or with friends its just great great times. Umm i know this is gonna sound stupid after everything ive said, but i dont wanna influence anybody haha. I just wanna make reason for those who get the bad propaganda from stupid ass school. Theyre only tryin to keep you from doing illegal things. Which is good but... weed should still be legal in the first place.
not take it right? goddam, I'm a fucking chainsmoker. if I can't even inhale a fucking joint correctly, then I seriously fail at life. & no, it wasn't bad weed. it was strong weed. as in rather pure.

'bad propaganda' is made for a reason. sure, weed doesn't affect your physical health all too much, but it can affect your mental health, depending on how stable you are. every drug fucks with your state of mind & consciousness. some more than others, but that doesn't take away the fact that it does. for some people that may be a good thing, but for some people it's seriously not that positive.

the fact that YOU like weed, doesn't mean the stuff deserves a recommendation. (my English is fucked at this time of the night, sorry) like Isolated Fury said, it's all about a personal preference. you probably know this, but felt the need to scream off rooftops; "I SMOKE WEED, MAN."
now we know. utterly fantastic. NEXT.

[JoY]

If you haven't noticed, the entire world is narrow-minded and judgemental, excluding a small fraction of people. There are some people that take pride in their mind's destruction. Take a look at TripBoy (no offense, TripBoy). He loves talking about how much he impairs himself, and, I think, he thinks that makes him better than other people. And yes, criticism does hurt people's self-esteem. Unless you're completely immune to others' opinions, your feelings will, eventually, be hurt. When feelings are hurt, self-esteem is damaged.
I don't think you know enough about TripBoy to make such statements. he's taken a lot of stuff in his life, but not just like any idiot, not knowing what it is & what it does. he actually gathered some knowledge about what he takes, so he KNOWS what he's doing. & I guess he just shares that info with us, not to be cool or better than anyone (he's really not -that- immature, you know), but to show you should know what you're doing. most people don't have a clue & just stick stuff in their mouths, noses & up their veins. God, for all he cares you fucking stick it up your ass. but it's not the way to go.

only criticism based on something relevant should affect you. I can't say I find pot-use anything relevant enough to a person to even criticize in the first place. if you'd let -that- affect you, you're seriously a fragile piece of shit anyway & shouldn't be doing drugs.

[JoY]

Im not proud to be smoking pot, lol thats a real dumb thing to be proud of.
that's good then.

[Guillermo90]

like i said im not recommending it, i just wanna know who does it and if they think that it should be legalized. plus i dont think weed should hve been the thing shuldv taken when being at a party. But still, ive thot about the bad propaganda, i know that people are trying to keep you away from it because of the fact that it is illegal! And thats what i wanna find out. I mean, alcohol messes you up way more and thats a fact. Weed doesnt even mess up your mind that much either man. And even if they did legalize it... i doubt everyone would smoke it. And i doubt everyone will be smoking it every second. I just want the government to make it legal so that its not a big problem. You know how many people have been arrested for weed? A BUNCH! lol

[JoY]

smoke less of it. it obviously messes with YOUR mind.

in all seriousness; weed is legal here & even though people think the Netherlands is one big druggy-heaven, it's really not. in comparison, we don't have many drug-problems over here. why? because there's a lot of information on the matter everywhere & making it legal doesn't mean everybody goes out to get it. I agree that more information on alcohol should be given. people should focuss more on it, especially in America, because the amount of alcoholics is supposed to be enormous. they tell you it does *sumthinsumthin* to your liver, but it's an extremely destructive drug, if you abuse it.

[Isolated Fury]

The only reason it should be legalized is to reduce taxes. Tax money is spent on keeping criminals in prison, but a lot of these people aren't criminals at all.

[Guillermo90]

dude the whole legalizing thing is relatively close to what i just said man. (im talkin to the guy from the netherlands)

[JoY]

ooooh, you're talking to The guy from the Netherlands... ;)

I'm all pro-legalisation, but making a topic about how fantastically brilliant it is.. I can't say I find that one of the most peachy ideas ever.


Isolated Fury; I agree. potheads are only criminals if the law tells them they are by making pot illegal. & my goodness, I know loads of people who occasionally smoke pot, but they wouldn't hurt a fucking fly.

[Isolated Fury]

Isolated Fury; I agree. potheads are only criminals if the law tells them they are by making pot illegal. & my goodness, I know loads of people who occasionally smoke pot, but they wouldn't hurt a fucking fly.

Exactly...I occasionally smoke weed, and I am one of the most timid people I know.

Honestly, I don't really like smoking weed. I just do it because...because I don't know why. I think it's a deep personal issue I will have to address alone...

[JoY]

Exactly...I occasionally smoke weed, and I am one of the most timid people I know.

Honestly, I don't really like smoking weed. I just do it because...because I don't know why. I think it's a deep personal issue I will have to address alone...
*raises eyebrow*

do you need to talk, sweetheart?

[Isolated Fury]

*raises eyebrow*

do you need to talk, sweetheart?

I'd rather not. I can be upset easily, and I don't feel like ruining my night just yet...

Thank you for the concern, though (unless it was sarcasm).

[JoY]

partly sarcasm, yes. but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be alright if you needed to vent.

I don't have a clue what's going on, but like I said; pot just messes a bit with your consciousness & state of mind. it's not a solution to anything. it can kill physical pain for a period of time & it might be able to kill mental pain for a period of time, too. but it doesn't solve the problem. so if there's problem.. fix it, without the use of any drugs. using pot is only procrastination.

[Isolated Fury]

But it seems like whenever I try to fix things, they only get worse. How can I compete against that?

[JoY]

just give it time. I don't even know what you're trying to fix, but I can assure you that if you at least face your problems & let them be as shitty as they are, without a blurred mind, you'll come up with a solution a lot quicker.

sometimes things just only seem to have a way downwards & sometimes it seems like it can only get worse & worse. the truth is, things can get worse & worse & worse & there's no limit to how bad they can get. but that also means there's no limit to how good they can get. so if you work on getting things better & better, you'll see that it's always possible & that there exists no 'best'. just better.

[Isolated Fury]

just give it time. I don't even know what you're trying to fix, but I can assure you that if you at least face your problems & let them be as shitty as they are, without a blurred mind, you'll come up with a solution a lot quicker.

sometimes things just only seem to have a way downwards & sometimes it seems like it can only get worse & worse. the truth is, things can get worse & worse & worse & there's no limit to how bad they can get. but that also means there's no limit to how good they can get. so if you work on getting things better & better, you'll see that it's always possible & that there exists no 'best'. just better.

But I'm tired of trying. I've tried for these good things for so long now. I getting sick of my attempts always being beaten down. There's only so much I can really take. After a while, I just walk away and give up. That's where the drugs come in...

[JoY]

whoaa, this is getting way too serious for my liking.

(just teasing)

maybe you shouldn't try so hard? maybe you should give your problem time to evolve & then maybe the solution will offer itself to you. mostly the solution to a problem presents itself in a way, that you don't recognise it as a solution. it's been there the whole time, you just didn't realise it was an option.

seriously, there isn't one problem that can't be overcome by either acceptance, or a solution. the one thing that I've learned from all the shit I've gone through, is that you're always a lot stronger than you think you are. maybe you've been thinking in the wrong direction this whole time & maybe you should handle things completely differently. who knows. I sure as hell don't, especially since I don't know what this is about. but there's only one way you won't accomplish anything & that's by thinking you won't accomplish anything.

[Isolated Fury]

During the last major problem I encountered, I tried to give my issue time to resolve itself. That didn't work. Eventually, the problem reached its maximum unpleasantness, and my relationship connected to that problem was destroyed.

For a time, yes, I did believe that I couldn't accomplish anything. But I had a revelation. I figured that I'd take a complete opposite approach to the problem. I would act like I was controlling it, and I was going to prevail. But for some reason, something happened, and I don't know what. I just stopped. I withdrew back into my previous persona.

I don't really think this can be helped. I'm sorry.

[JoY]

everything can be. but not with that attitude.

[Isolated Fury]

I'm sorry. I think it'd be best if we stopped here. I don't really feel like opening up on the BBS.

[JoY]

that's alright. it's probably wiser not to, anyway.
I hope my vague words were of any help.

[Sunny]

i won't turn down the occassional joint at a party, but that's about it. it can be fun like the occassional drink. -shrugs-

A bunch of things that bothered me about your post... well, first of all, you said cigarettes can kill you.. well, you SMOKE weed, you know. smoke + tar = bad for you. Plus you hold it in longer. I dunno, my lungs and throat feel ouchy every time I smoke.. so saying that smoking weed is harmless is really sort of stupid. Even out of a bong. I can't imagine my lungs being like "yay smoke! how healthy!"

Expands your creativity? wtf. all it does is make me laugh hysterically and get a crazy body high.

And it's easy to form a dependence on it. yeah, you can form a dependence on chocolate, i know. But I know people who can't go a day without smoking weed... because they get twitchy and act crazy without it. eeek.

{{ If people let others acknowledge their drug use, they get labeled as a waste of society}}

drug use as in CRACK or heroin? perhaps. alcohol or weed or even stimulants? hardly. maybe our circles are just different, though.

[Nina]

i dont know how this will come off, but the word "lame" discribes best what i think of drugs in general. and i do not mean this in ANY way as another word for "gay", but its litterally...LAME...to me to think of kids doing drugs. the reasons for doing drugs will never be justified to me. but that is probably a super personal thing (i never met anybody who agreed with me).
there were so many people who (unfortunately) were part of my life for a long time and never showed me their real self. today i see that they are not even half as smart as i thought they were, for doing the stupidest things in the world (obviously i am speaking of drugs, or else i would be rambling on a LOT wouldnt i). ...lame! there we have it again. -shrug- i cant explain better.

[Sunny]

Does that include alcohol? (just curious)

[Nina]

yes.
and i know you will probably disagree. everybody does.

[JohnnyNemesis]

You're all forgetting the real point:

Guillermo90 is a fucking idiot.

I have my own reasons for staying away from drugs and alcohol. As far as weed goes, it's the only one I've ever consider trying, but that will never ever happen. I've done research on the subject, both formal and informal, and I know what it does to all of my closest friends and some family. It's really not that bad, but it's not for me.

Alcohol has been horrible in every way imaginable, and just the worst thing ever, as far as my life experience goes (what I've seen it do to relatives I mean). I don't fuck with it, cause again, it aint for me.

I'm free to change my mind whenever though, but I'm thinking I'll stick to my guns. I have legit reasons.

[Sunny]

yes.
and i know you will probably disagree. everybody does.

I do, but that's not the point - I respect your opinion, and it makes sense to me. I asked because I know some people who are totally "anti-drugs" but get SMASHED on a regular basis.. I mean so drunk they're incoherent... but they don't consider alcohol a drug.

lame right?

[Nina]

I do, but that's not the point - I respect your opinion, and it makes sense to me. I asked because I know some people who are totally "anti-drugs" but get SMASHED on a regular basis.. I mean so drunk they're incoherent... but they don't consider alcohol a drug.

lame right?

....exactly. you have no idea how much such people confuse me.
alcohol is probably even one of the worst cases for me at the moment. of course not the hardest or most dangerous drug, because i actually dont think so... but around here, you get to see REALLY ridiculous things, especially because alcohol is allowed at the age of 16 (we all know that everybody starts earlier) and harder stuff at the age of 18. :[
my personal experience also leads to my opinion...i never liked any drugs. i tried a few (minor) things like cigarrettes, weed and of course alcohol...but i simply dont like it. nobody seems to get that.

i apologize for rambling. i'm angry at the moment.

=)

[Flexing Wings]

Maybe these people should find friends who respect them enough to understand... if people guilt trip you, or try and pressure you then they're dicks. And you should learn to grow some balls...

[Nina]

That being said, there are some drugs that "I just don't like it" NEVER applied to. I urge every single one of you to avoid those drugs like the plague. I know for a fact that there's not a single one of you here that wouldn't looooooove it if I injected you full of dope, dilu, or even bupe. You'd sweat and spasm and fever and vomit for hours, but you'd love every fucking second of it.

that may be very much true. but the thing is, i would not know. and the risks are too high for myself to TRY it. i myself was saying the "i dont like it" statement about drugs which i have tried, and which are also considered normal in many many circles.
sorry if that wasnt aimed at me. i wanted to reply anyway.

[JoY]

I understand where you, Mags & Nina, are coming from perfectly.
I don't have anything against drugs, but they simply don't interest me much. my state of mind is quite sunny these days, so I have no intention or desire to change anything about it. alcohol.. I guess it's just something I really enjoy. not just the feeling it can give, but also the taste & the tingling on your tongue. what can I say? I just enjoy it. but I do understand it's a quite strong drug. if I wouldn't understand that by now.. well, that would be ridiculous.

I can't say I agree with you, Nina, to a point that I resent drugs or just dislike them (maybe "resent" is too strong of a word), but I do understand you & respect your opinion. no opinion could ever be wrong.

& Mags, I agree that it's insane how some people yell & scream "drugs are bad" & are as 'anti' as can be, when in fact they get completely slushed every now & then. it just makes me want to grab them by their shoulders & shake them a little bit. "for god's sake, you've just been pouring one hell of a drug right inside of you."


I might be typing in a weird way. sorry, I'm in a weird mood. a good mood, though. :)

[JoY]

very funny.
but not my kind of humour.

[Sunny]

{{I don't have anything against drugs, but they simply don't interest me much. my state of mind is quite sunny these days, so I have no intention or desire to change anything about it. alcohol.. I guess it's just something I really enjoy. not just the feeling it can give, but also the taste & the tingling on your tongue. what can I say? I just enjoy it. but I do understand it's a quite strong drug. if I wouldn't understand that by now.. well, that would be ridiculous.}}

I feel the same way.. I like the taste of alcohol and the nice warm feeling it can give you. However, I HATE getting *drunk*, and I don't drink to improve my mood when I'm feeling low. And it's important to recognize its potential to be dangerous and addictive. People who think "OMG WEED IS SO BAD" but drink huge amounts of beer are just plain stupid. Just because something is LEGAL doesn't mean it's SAFE.

[Sunny]

.
my personal experience also leads to my opinion...i never liked any drugs. i tried a few (minor) things like cigarrettes, weed and of course alcohol...but i simply dont like it. nobody seems to get that.

i apologize for rambling. i'm angry at the moment.

=)

I personally do get it... I hate it when people are like "OMG HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE THIS OR THAT". you just don't like it, period. Nothing weird about that.

[JoY]

I fully agree with Mags on this one.

[Sunny]

well, of course. However, Nina haven't tried it, and neither have I.

I've done some drugs (well, one) I have genuinely LOVED, and that's what scared the living shit out of me. so I choose to stay away from it. =/

[JoY]

smart thinking.
the only drug that has tempted me to abuse is alcohol. as much as I still love alcohol, I've had my crummy experiences & now I really only drink it, when there's at least some kind of special occasion. tonight Schindler's List will be on. good enough occasion for two bottles of wine with my boyfriend. *friendly smile*